.357 vs 38+ ammo makes a huge difference

Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by JJMilmore, Apr 10, 2005.

  1. JJMilmore

    JJMilmore New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    I have been practicing with Winchester 38 SPL. +P 125GR ammo and its been great with my S&W 640 revolver. Then I wanted to try the Federal 357 Mag 158 grain hydra-shok hollow point defence rounds. I did not expect the kick I recieved. I didn't know there would be that much difference in rounds.

    Just a thought for new 357 buyers, try the smaller round first. Anyone suggest good practice rounds? Should I stay with the 38 SPL or go with something else? I hate wolf ammo with a passion after it locked up twice in my Beretta 96 and my AR15.
  2. MPinkston

    MPinkston Member

    Jun 25, 2001
    West Tennessee
    Just as an example, the chamber preasure for a 38 spl is around 15,000. For a 38 spl +P it jumps to a whopping 18,000. A 357 Magnum develops around 30,000. Looks can be deceiving :D

  3. Neil

    Neil New Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    Stanwood washington
    Just from a kid who has shot a little of both and owned a 38spl +p, I would say go with what you can handle confidently and safely both will get the job done. just my .02
  4. mspears

    mspears New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    Conover, NC
    I'd try to stay away from the Winchester 38 SPL. +P 125GR if you can since they do not have a stellar street record. 158 grain .357 ammo has not received a lot of R&D from the manufactures for Self Defense purposes so I'd shy away from them. For self defense in .357 stay with 125 and 110 grain JHP ammo from Remington, Federal, Buffalo Bore or CorBon. Can't go wrong! If the .357 has too much recoil for you, try the CorBon .38 +P 110 or 125 grain. They just fall short of .357 ballistics and kick somewhere in between .38 +P and .357.
  5. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    148 Flush seated wads; aprox $60 a case of 500. In a 2" gun, magnum=loud, no more, since the barrel is too short for the powder to burn.
    The wadcutters are loaded with faster powder, resulting in less muzzle flash/ blast, lower recoil (less powder), and, generally, a more pleasant experience.
    As a side note, they are as effective, maybe moreso, as a defensive round, in a short barrel, as any of the hot loads designed for a 6 incher; while energy is down, you get a total dump into the target!
  6. JJMilmore

    JJMilmore New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    thats good to keep in mind, thanks
  7. Smoky14

    Smoky14 Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Nowhere NM
    Just a thought; my wife was having a problem controling full house .357 loads in her SP101. Rem makes a mediun pressure 357 load which far exceeds the 38+P yet has quite a bit less kick that a full blown 357.
    Her accuracy went up and the stopping power up, win,win.

  8. John Y.

    John Y. New Member

    Mar 20, 2005
    How does the kick of a .357 compare to a .45 ACP?
  9. joseph2213

    joseph2213 New Member

    Mar 30, 2005
    I can not really feel the kick of a .357 or just about any pistol. I have a desert eagle .50AE and it kicks hardddddddd.

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