38 special TMJ loads

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  1. jon fennell

    jon fennell New Member

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    HI does anyone have data for reloading 38special in 158TMJ loads? Been using bullseye to date at 3.3g.
    Cheers
  2. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    That's a good load. TMJ bullets are plated, not jacketed, so you need to load them with lead specs, not jacketed specs. Lyman book has 2.4 to 3.7 grains of bullseye with a 158 lead, so you're right in the ballpark.
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    jon fennell New Member

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    Thanks
    Any thoughts on P+ loads - using bullseye and 158TMJ`s
    Jon
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    I use 3.6 grains of Bullseye under 158 grain LRN, (Dardas hard cast bullet).
    Real sweet load. No fouling whatsoever.
    3.5 grains not too bad either.
    At 3.5 grains you get 2000 rounds from a pound of powder!
  5. scrat

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    158 grain Lead RNFP or SWC COWBOY load
    Trail Boss 2.7 gr. 661 FPS minimum
    Trail Boss 4.2 gr. 804 FPS Maximum
    Universal 3.5 gr. 756 FPS minimum
    Universal 4.5 gr. 974 FPS MAXIMUM
    HP38 3.1 gr. 782 minimum
    HP38 3.7 gr. 834 Maximum
    Titegroup 3.2 gr. 815 minimum
    Titegroup 3.8 gr. 920 Maximum
    Clays 2.8 gr. 812 minimum
    Clays 3.1 gr. 871 Maximum
    AA #5 6.0 gr. 883 Max
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    158 grain LSWC or LRN (Semi-Wad, Rnd. Nose or flat point)
    Bullseye 3.6 gr. 810 FPS
    Unique 3.5 gr. 697 (mild load)
    Unique 4.3 gr. 920
    Unique 4.5 gr. 975 (actual in 7" bbl revolver)
    Unique 4.5 gr. 908 (5" bbl,powder UP)
    (Hi=930 Lo= 885.4 Spread=44.2 fps)
    Unique 4.5 gr. 797 (5" bbl,powder DOWN - see note)
    (Hi=879.5 Lo= 729.4 Spread=150.1 fps)
    Universal 3.5 gr. 756 (Cowboy load)
    Universal 4.5 gr. 974
    Clays 2.8 gr. 812 (cowboy load)
    Clays 3.1 gr. 871
    HP38 3.1 gr. 782 (Cowboy load)
    HP38 3.7 gr. 834
    No. 2 4.0 gr. 756 (published load)
    No. 2 3.6 gr. 808 (in 7" bbl)
    hi=849 lo=728 ES=122 (powder up and down)
    No. 2 3.2 gr. 725 (in 7" bbl)
    hi=770 lo=679 ES=91 (powder up and down)
    No. 5 5.8 gr. 841 (published)
    No. 5 5.0 gr. 736 (in 7" bbl)
    hi=763 lo=688 ES=75 (powder up and down)
    No. 5 4.6 gr. 694 (in 7" bbl)
    hi=740 lo=648 ES=92 (powder up and down)
    231 3.1 gr. 753 (do not use less)
    231 4.5 gr. 830 (published MAX)
    231 4.0 gr. 898 (actual in 7" bbl revolver)
    WST 3.7 gr. 770 (MAX)
    WAP 4.5 gr. 681 (published)
    WAP 4.3 gr. 752 (in 7"bbl)*
    hi=821 lo=684 ES=137 (powder up and down)
    WAP 4.3 gr. 734 (in 4 5/8" bbl)*
    hi=815 lo=637 ES=178 (powder in normal positions)
    WAP 4.0 gr. 658 (in 7" bbl)*(NOT recommended)
    hi=714 lo=549 ES=165 (powder up and down)
    540 6.8 gr. 880
    VV N320 3.9 gr. 872 (published)
    VV N320 3.2 gr. 723 (in 7" bbl)(same in 4 5/8" bbl)
    hi=758 lo=693 ES=65 (powder up and down)(DO NOT USE LESS)
    VV N340 4.8 gr. 882
    *WAP is not best choice for .38 special, too slow and inconsistent
  6. jon fennell

    jon fennell New Member

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    Thanks great data. I will get loading!
    Jon
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    My secret hehehehe i will post later
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