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  1. hstout1143

    hstout1143 Well-Known Member

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    Is .38 Super, .38 Auto and .38 Superauto all the same thing?
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    No.

    38 Super and 38 Superauto is the same.

    Long ago Colt made a round they called 38 ACP - 38 Automatic Colt Pistol. Then they put more powder in the same dang case and called it the 38 Super Automatic. They chambered it in the 1911, which was strong enough for it, but it will fit in the older 1908 38 ACP. Really, REALLY stupid thing to do.

    38 ACP would be the 38 Auto. Same size as 38 Super, but about half the power.
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    good grief!

    no wonder it's so hard to figure stuff out.

    too many too similar cartridge designations... the .308/762 and .223 / 556 are bad enough....
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    hstout1143 Well-Known Member

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    So would it be safe to shoot the .38 auto in a gun chambered for .38 super?.
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    It would be safe to fire it, but it probably would not work the action. Not enough "umph" to push the spring back.

    Also, since 38 ACP has been an obsolete cartridge for years (like many old rounds, they quit making them for WW2, and never started back after the war), it would be in the realm of "collector ammo", and undoubtedly worth a bit of money. Why shoot 5-dollar a round pistol ammo, when you could sell it and buy 50-cent a round ammo.
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    hstout1143 Well-Known Member

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    Good point.
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    Then of course there's .38 special and .38 special +p. Another stupid modification. I have to be careful buying .38 because my old .38 revolver wasn't designed to handle +p ammo.
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    same with some of those newer aluminum framed ones...
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    hstout1143 Well-Known Member

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    What's the difference between the two?
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    pressure...
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    And a side note, just FYI.

    The Spanish Model 400 (Modelo 1921) is marked "9mm (38)"
    It's not designed to shoot the 9mm luger or the 38 Super, but there are people that will give you an argument on both counts. It was chambered for the 9mm Largo and it's a good idea to stick to the cartridge any pistol is chambered for.

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    hstout1143 Well-Known Member

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    I have one of those Astra 400's, what are my chances of finding ammo for it?
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    9mm largo shows up at gun shows often. I bought a box a month ago
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    As Soundguy said, it's out there and available.
    If you reload, Starline has the brass and you can roll your own.

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