380 as a defence weepon.

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by thomasray, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. thomasray

    thomasray Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Columbia River
    Old Elmer K. would devorse me. I have a Makrov and a Beretta in 380 ACP. I can't imagine any circumstance than a bingo on some crooks shin bone or nose wouldn't slow down his vigor. A couple them 90 grain pils in the big intestine woodn't serve breakfast neether.

    Now I have some 45 autos and a big old S&W 25 in 45 Long Colt which ain't zactly a brand of coffe. These cannons don't fit in a coat pocket without looking like I shoplifted a 6-pak of beer. So I tuck a 380 in my satorial and achieve a decent mien and a sence of security without the bulk.

    What say ye? TWR
  2. Pistolsmith

    Pistolsmith New Member

    Feb 14, 2004
    A .380 is marginal, but a good deal better than some other smaller calibers.
    Personally, I think that a 2" .38 special handloaded with 173 grain Keith bullets is a bit higher up on the scale, and it doesn't take up any more room in a jacket pocket.
    Well, you mentioned Elmer...............

  3. Remington597

    Remington597 Former Guest

    Feb 24, 2004
    You are perfectly fine with a good .380 as a defensive weapon.
    Recommended CC .380 firearms are as follows:

    1. Kel Tec P3AT. About $250
    2. NorthAmerican Guardian..380ACP around $350

    Those two would be exceptional and reliable for the money
  4. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

  5. .380's are OK, but I like the old Charter Arms Bulldog Pug in .44 Special.
  6. thomasray

    thomasray Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Columbia River
    Always good advice here.

    All you folks at this Forum always give good feedback. And you do it with a positive. ...........
  7. My wife just read your sig line.

    She said I will never be out of a job.
  8. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    I too would be a bit uneasy with a .380, specially in the winter time when people layer clothing and have heavy coats. I would really be looking at a .44. Maybe a new Taurus titanium .44 Special!
  9. Gunfyter

    Gunfyter New Member

    Mar 25, 2003
    Western Maryland
    A 380 is ...

    Certainly better than nothing, but with the number of miniature 9mm , .40s&w and .45ACP guns available, I'd opt for one of them. When the adrenaline starts to flow I would rather have one of them in my hand than the .380. My Kahr conceals nicely. My $.02
  10. SouthernMoss

    SouthernMoss *Admin Tech Staff*

    Jan 1, 2003
    SW MS
    I agree with the others that .380 is a bit minimal for concealed carry, but I also feel that a .380 "mouse gun" that you are willing and able to carry anytime, anywhere is better than a .45 that stays in the gunsafe because you aren't able to conceal it.

    Best case scenario -- have several weapons available for concealed carry, and choose the largest caliber that fits with your wardrobe and activities for each particular day.

    And BTW, Welcome to TFF!
  11. rglbegl

    rglbegl Well-Known Member

    Mar 4, 2004
    Dana point CA
    According to the numbers, a good .380 bullet should do the trick. No way it could keep up with the .45, but hopefully if you have to pull a gun, the mere presence of it should ward off anybody. If the .380 is your choice, look for the right ammo. Some of this new stuff penitrates really well. Some of that frangible looks like it would be vicious too. Or just get the 9x18 makarov barrel for either gun, and have almost the same ballistics of a 9mm. (9x19)
    No matter what anyone says - A .22 in the hand is still better than a .45 left at home.
  12. Gator

    Gator Guest

    A .22 in the hand is still better than a .45 left at home.

  13. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Gator, you are absolutely correct! Welcome to TFF! Glad to have you aboard.
  14. merc

    merc New Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Pelham, NH
    sometimes I carry a 9mm
    sometimes a 44 special
    sometimes a .380
    sometimes a .32
    sometimes a .22

    They are all better than rocks
    If you need a gun for protection from some dirty low life rest assured that all you have to do in most cases is pull it out and the low life will take off. They don't think ballistics---their mind see gun and thinks bullet and think pain or death.
    show a rock and they will laugh.
  15. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Amen, brother! :D :D :D :D
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