.380 for Self Defense?

Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by Contenderizer, Nov 13, 2008.

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Is the .380 a practical self-defense round?

Poll closed Jan 12, 2009.
  1. No Way ... unless you are attacked by a squirrel.

    3.7%
  2. OK as a back-up gun - but nothing else.

    9.3%
  3. Fine for self-defense if you understand its short-comings.

    53.7%
  4. I'm OK with it - it is/could be my primary self-defense round.

    33.3%
  1. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    I voted for the last selection, since often I carry my PPK/s as my CCW.

    I can't think of any reason why .380acp is not a "practical self defense round". If there's any doubt in the caliber's lethality, just take a look at its track record; it is near the top in the US for deadly shootings.

    And looking at the ft-lbs to predict a handgun's performance as a "stopper" is pretty much a useless task. About as useful as taking a shower with a raincoat on. An experienced karate student can strike with 300 ft-lbs with his fist, about like your 9x19mm, and pushing towards .45acp. A heavyweight boxer, the reason being boxers punch with their body, may punch with 900-1,000 ft-lbs of energy. After a few rounds a heavyweight boxer soaks up tons worth of ft-lbs and is still going.

    Shot placement. A .380acp works. If there's any worry about the effectiveness of handguns like P3AT or LCP, it's not the caliber; it's their small platform size that limits their ergonomics as opposed to med-size to service sized weapons, i.e. G19 up to 1911A1 size.
  2. I still say it looks better on Shellie though, Delta. :D;)
  3. CampingJosh

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    AMEN!! :D:D
  4. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    She'd make a rusty flintlock look good though:D:D:D
  5. CampingJosh

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    Was that a jab at Pistol? :eek: ::::ducking::::
  6. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    LMAO

    No I didn't say a medieval spear:p:D
  7. Actually, Delta, I prefer the Javelin to the spear:

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    :D;):p
  8. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    I hate to make a pun, but you must have a CLU:D:D:D
  9. True, Delta, but a Command & Launch Unit is only useful if you have the Javelin itself, preferably several if T-80s or BMPs are headed for you. :D;)
  10. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    Yup and several refill bottles of that really cold stuff;)
  11. Old Timer

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    Contenderizer: I consider the .380 ACP to be one of three viable self defense cartridges, the .38 SP and the 9mmP being the other two. Bigger, more powerful cartridges are for service or hunting loads and usually found in service or hunting guns, or virtually unshootable sub-compacts.
    When needed (shorts and t-shirt or deep concealed back-up) I will also accept the .32 ACP, but not on a regular basis.
    Everybody forgot about the .380 with the advent of ultra-light 9mmP (Kel-Tec P-11 and Taurus PT111) and miniguns like the Kel-Tec P-32. Now, with both Ruger and Kel-Tec making ultra-light .380 ACPs that fall in both weight and power between the .32 ACP and 9mmP, the .380 ACP is again a viable self defense handgun. Loaded with frangible or hot JHPs it compares well with the .38 SP. Given a choice between the Kahr .380 and my compact SIG .357 for day to day concealed carry I'd probably opt for the Kahr. But then I havn't been shot at in almost 40 years and don't expect to be again. I'd just carry the .380 for company, and I like lightweight, concealable, comfortable company, particularly if it has the authority of over 200 ft lbs of energy. Old Timer
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    With the advances in ballistic sciences I see no reason that a .380 couldn't and wouldn't do the job. I've seen where Corbon DPX solid copper hollow points are leaving .70+ wound channels. Yeah, that should stop 'em.
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    Only because I'm ambidexterous and carry a S&W .357, S&W Airweight Snubnose.38 and have room for the Macarov. Oh, wait..n/m I forgot I just bought a nice lil 1911 and that's not enough hands is it?
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    The Ruger LCP is currently under a large recall, due to a malfunction in its design that may cause a discharge if dropped.
    http://www.ruger.com/LCPRecall/index.html

    Thanks, I'll take my Kel-tec instead. (and it's less expensive than the ruger too). :D
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    Why not? Folks carry 9mm's for 'self-defense'.
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