7.65 French Long loading data needed

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  1. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

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    Just picked up my second MAS 1935A. Need loading data for 71 and 85-86 grain FMJ bullets. Anyone else reload for this cartridge?
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    I have data for a 77 grain cast bullet, an 86 grain "7.63 Mauser" bullet (I presume that would be FMJ), and the Speer 100 grain "Plinker". Any of them do you any good? All three using either bullseye or unique.
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    jim brady Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot for the help! I usually use Unique powder for pistol reloading, and have 86 grain FMJ bullets on order for the 7.65 MAS. If you have loads with this combination it would be great. Thanks again!
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    This is from Cartridges of the World, 2nd Edition.

    It's listed as the 7.65 MAS (French). Does not say anything about "long". These are the loads listed. All should be considered "Max" loads, and you should do the "drop it 10% for a start load and work up" thing.

    77 grain cast RN bullet, 3.6 of Unique, 1100 fps, 206 foot pounds
    86 grain "Mauser" bullet, 2.3 of Bullseye, 1000 fps, 190 foot pounds
    100 grain Speer "plinker", 3.1 of Unique, 1030 fps, 235 foot pounds
    Factory load, 85 grain, 1120 fps, 240 foot pounds
  5. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, Alpo! This give me a great place to start. Dies, brass and bullets due in a few days. Sure miss the old days when you could buy reliable surplus ammo cheap. I reload a bunch for lots of calibers - including U.S. military duplication loads for 7.62 NATO and M-118, M-73, .30M1 and .30M2, .30 Carbine and .30-40 Krag and .45-70 loads. Also some other military pistol loads like the .45 ACP and .45 Colt. Been doing this since 1971. Still use the same tools I originally bought back then (RCBS).
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    I have loaded several 7.65 French Long rounds with Unique powder and 86 grain .308 diameter jacketed round nose bullets. As very little data is available, here is what I have found to work in my pistol. I do not have a chronograph so these rounds were fired for function and reasonable accuracy:
    3.1 grs Unique, std primer, 86 gr Sierra, weak, would not cycle 1935A slide
    3.5 grs Unique, std primer, 86 gr JRN, mild, good function, 2" @ 15' group
    3.6 grs Unique, std primer, 86 gr JRN, mild, 2" @ 15' group
    3.7 grs Unique, std primer, 86 gr JRN, mid-range, 2" group @ 15'
    3.5 grs Unique, SP Mag primer, 86 gr JRN, mild to mid load, 2" @ 15' group

    These loads functioned as noted in MY pistol, and are presented for information ONLY. I do do have a labratory to test the safety of these loads so I do not recommend that anyone use this data. As few others have made data available, this is only presented as information. My pistol and cases showed no visable signs of high pressure, but caution is always advised.
  7. wolfen1949

    wolfen1949 New Member

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    I use .86 grain bullets for both of my 1935A,s . Both of my guns must have good recoil springs because they do not like the 2.3 grs of bullseye . I use 2.5 and everything works fine.

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  8. gluther

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    Thanks to all for the info. just got started reloading and have the 1935S and would like to make my own loads for it. Any suggestions/tricks for making the cases. I bought the SW 32 long cases and have some ideas in my head but am open to suggestions.
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