A Decent Gun Safe Below 500

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  1. aa1911

    aa1911 Active Member

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    that reminds me, I need to put as much of my lead in my safe as I can fit; I've got almost 200 lbs left in ingots, 200 + 700lb safe + 300lb of guns/ammo = super hard to move!

    I hate thieves...
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    Keeping what you have is the main thing. For a fire to be directly on your safe for 30 minutes is 1 in a thousand unless it is placed near a kitchen, Furnace or in an attic. As long as it is secured in place and has decent lugs there are many out there that will do the job.
  4. mrmurl

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    Hello; I am new here but thought that I would chime in here. A couple of months ago Minards had a sale on gun safes. They had a Stack-on 28 gun safe listed for just under $600. I bought this safe and it is fire rated at 1400 degrees for 30 minutes and waterproof up to two feet deep for 72 hours if bolted to the floor.
    Like someone already said; I would be hard pressed to get 28 guns into this safe, and they would have to be almost stacked in like cord wood. Maybe that is why they call them Stack-on. LOL It is a really nice safe and weighs 500 pounds without anything inside. I do not have any lead ingots but have a few other things to help weigh it down as well. I was able to use a tractor to get down into my basement, but it would be really hard to get it out without some sort of mechanical help.
    I don't for a minute believe that the fire rateing is of much use as usually something like a safe is on the lower floors and all the stuff falls in around it during a fire, if not on a lower floor when the fire starts, after a littl while of burning the safe will be on the lower floor anyway. The fireproofing helps to add the extra weight that will make it harder to steal. Good luck with you choice of a safe.
  5. 76Highboy

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    Maybe this will help. Where I live there is a safe company that builds very good quality safe's. They are a great price for the safe. However, they sell scratch and dent safe's. They had really nice safe's for $300.00. Were talking super nice stuff. These were $800.00 safe's for $300.00 because they were scratched.

    See if there is a company that builds safe's around you and make them an offer on a scratch and dent.

    Also, even though you get what you pay for, sometimes you have to start low. If all you can afford is $500.00 dollars, then good for you. Buy a safe that is under that and begin saving for a better safe. At least your cheap safe will lock your valuables out of sight and mind AND they are locked away from the reach of kids. It's a step in the right direction. Another thing. If a thief wants to get into a safe, they will get into just about any safe. It's just that some safe's are harder to get into. BUT, most buglers won't mess with a safe. They want to get in and get out quick. So, at least a safe of some sort is a deterrent of some sort. Unfortunately there are those that will successfully break into or steal the whole safe. But at least a cheap safe is a step in the right direction.
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    I got a good one from Costco. It's a 48 gun, half hour fire safe. But it was $999 on sale for $649. They may have less expensive ones for a fair price.
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  7. aa1911

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    yep. Doesn't matter how hard it is to crack, someone determined will just steal the safe and take their time figuring out how to get into it on their own time/terms.

    so make that bastard as hard as possible to move!

    and something is better than nothing
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    A good loud dog and nosey neighbors are the best security system.
  9. 76Highboy

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    All safe's can be broken into. It just depends on how much time and determination a thief has. One story I read one time was a thief was determined to break into a safe until he cut his fingers off trying to pry the door open. The pry bar slipped and he lost 8 digits. He was so badly hurt he could not turn the door knob so he was stuck in the house in pain until the owners got home. It was a dumb crook write up. That is justice.
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  11. BulletArc47

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    I have reasonably noisy dog:D, of course he's so lazy that he would stretch, yawn and watch while the thief walked out with everything.:p

    As far as my neighbors, they're quieter than skeletons.:bleh:

    Can't stop someone who really wants to steal something, true that.
    Huh, I didn't think find local safe builders, maybe I'll take a look down that path.

    This isn't too shabby, this along with MSGT-R's recommendation is probably the best I can do for now.:cool:

    And add another 100 hundred pounds of guns and ammo for good measure!:D
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    Bullet, these cheap safes from Wal Mart, and other shuch places, have holes drilled in them, sides, and bottom. The holes are for lag bolts. If the holes don't match up with your studs, then drill some new ones. They bolt to the walls on two sides, and they bolt to the floor! As stated before, if a thief wants in your safe, and he has the time, he will succeed.
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    yep, just saw that add myself!
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    I thought this video on YouTube had some good info on safes. I think it's worth a watch: http://youtu.be/ltK-bDbADa8

    I'm not a fan of the weaponseducation guy, but he's not the one doing the explaining in the video.
  15. BulletArc47

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    Very interesting watch; and it has helped me very much in making a decision, I believe I will follow carvers advice and start with the security-cabinet from Wally-World. Then when I need to, upgrade to better a safe. I honestly don' t see myself owning more 8 long-guns in the foreseeable future anyway.

    I want thank everyone who has taken time to give very valuable information to me, and some sense.
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