A "oops" with a 45

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  1. Alpo

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    "Always assume a gun is loaded"


    THEN UNLOAD IT...

    I guess I was lucky, I just got in the habit of unloading a gun,

    whenever I picked it up, till it became a "muscle memory" response.

    I say lucky, because there have been a few times, over the years,

    when I thought a gun was unloaded and it wasn't...
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  3. Double D

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    I honestly dont think that could happen to me. At least, I hope not. I have such a habit of checking every firearm I handle as soon as I touch it, that I dont see me ever doing something like that. I guess someone who hadnt fired a handgun in ten years might be slack on checking, but I dont know.
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    a bathroom has got to be the worst place in a house to store a firearm. too much humidity produced by showers and baths.

    a firearm should always be considered loaded until it is inspected and comfirmed it's not. even then it shouldn't be played with.

    he is very lucky no one was injured
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  5. aa1911

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    No excuse for that one, wow. Even if I know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether a gun is loaded or not (even if I set it down for only 30 seconds), I treat it as loaded and clear it again. If I think it's loaded and want to keep it that way, I do a press check.

    Where I have been in the Army, unit policy is that any accidental or negligent discharge from any weapon meant finding a new job. This guy was lucky and didn't hit anyone, had he hit someone or even their house, he would be in deep doo-doo!
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    My guns are always loaded, I know this, and treat them with respect. If you hand me a gun, I won't take it untill I see you clear it. Then I double check when I put my hands on it. The guy in this story made a simple mistake, one that could have resulted in the death of another person. I hope that he has learned his lesson.
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    Same here!
  8. Deacon_Man

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    Having not shot a gun in ten years is no excuse. Eather you have a brain in your head or you don't. My .02 cents worth.
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    mine are loaded too.That is just being a idiot.
  10. al45lc

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    This is the reason we now call these 'negligent discharges' as opposed to 'accidental' ones.
    Not ALL my guns are loaded, there's no reason for that since they are mostly locked up.(why would anyone have dozens of loaded guns at one time?)
    But the ones that aren't 'locked up' are loaded.
    An unloaded gun is just an expensive brick!
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  11. Alpo

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    Actually, many of us still call them "accidental", using the definition of "accidental" - NOT ON PURPOSE.

    And as for "why have dozens of loaded guns" - why not?
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    IMHO certain "lessons" stick better than others.
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    Why would you have dozens of loaded guns at one time? Well, I always have and I always will. Every gun I grab is ready to rock. Why have unloaded guns?
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    Negligent; Failing to excercise the care expected of a reasonably prudent person.

    Accident; An unexpected event.
    Legally, 'accident' is most often used for an event that occurs without the intervention of a human being.(Once known as an "act of God")

    Fact; Guns ARE dangerous tools!

    Basic rule of gun handling, treat every gun as loaded until confirmed otherwise.

    So when he pulled the trigger, what did he think would happen?

    So in fact, this was pure negligence, not an accident. You can bet if someone had been hurt, that's EXACTLY how the court would veiw it.

    And, IMO, there is NO point to 57 loaded guns in a safe(s).
    I can't possibly use that many, that's just silly.
    As I said, not ALL mine are loaded, what would be the point?
    As for ya'll that do, do what you like, it's a free country.
    Just remember your human, and humans make mistakes.
    The more chances for you to make a mistake, the more likely it will happen.
    The more loaded guns, the greater the chance for that mistake.
    Statistically, it's inarguable. But I'm sure some will!
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    Only people who never touch a gun never have an accident with a gun. Best you can say is not yet. Then when you finally get your turn hope that you were obeying the other rules and had the gun pointed in a SAFE direction and not at something you did not want shot. Dumb mistake and I feel for the guy but one thing is for sure certain, he will never make that mistake again.
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    I have never had an accidental discharge and never plan on having one. However, my brother has had many. He shot the air duct off a farmers house once. He is a moron without a brain. He has put several holes in my fathers roof and walls and if he has a gun I won't be within 10 miles from him. He grew up hunting, and has handled many guns but he still has misfires. I don't have anything to do with him and never plan to. Some people just aren't gun savvy. But then again, even though he grew up fixing his own bike, he always seemed to stab him self with his own screw driver about every other summer. Some people should only be spectators.

    As for unloaded guns, what's that?
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    I'm with the others here. I check and recheck any gun I handle, even if I have seen it being unloaded.

    What he did was just plain stupid and dangerous.
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    My thoughts EXACTLY!
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