A "oops" with a 45

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by Alpo, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

    "Always assume a gun is loaded"


    I guess I was lucky, I just got in the habit of unloading a gun,

    whenever I picked it up, till it became a "muscle memory" response.

    I say lucky, because there have been a few times, over the years,

    when I thought a gun was unloaded and it wasn't...
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2012

  3. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    North Florida
    I honestly dont think that could happen to me. At least, I hope not. I have such a habit of checking every firearm I handle as soon as I touch it, that I dont see me ever doing something like that. I guess someone who hadnt fired a handgun in ten years might be slack on checking, but I dont know.
  4. Brass Tacks

    Brass Tacks New Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Arkansas
    a bathroom has got to be the worst place in a house to store a firearm. too much humidity produced by showers and baths.

    a firearm should always be considered loaded until it is inspected and comfirmed it's not. even then it shouldn't be played with.

    he is very lucky no one was injured
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2012
  5. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    No excuse for that one, wow. Even if I know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether a gun is loaded or not (even if I set it down for only 30 seconds), I treat it as loaded and clear it again. If I think it's loaded and want to keep it that way, I do a press check.

    Where I have been in the Army, unit policy is that any accidental or negligent discharge from any weapon meant finding a new job. This guy was lucky and didn't hit anyone, had he hit someone or even their house, he would be in deep doo-doo!
  6. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    My guns are always loaded, I know this, and treat them with respect. If you hand me a gun, I won't take it untill I see you clear it. Then I double check when I put my hands on it. The guy in this story made a simple mistake, one that could have resulted in the death of another person. I hope that he has learned his lesson.
  7. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Ohio NRA Member
    Same here!
  8. Deacon_Man

    Deacon_Man Active Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Weatherford Texas
    Having not shot a gun in ten years is no excuse. Eather you have a brain in your head or you don't. My .02 cents worth.
  9. skullfr

    skullfr New Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    mine are loaded too.That is just being a idiot.
  10. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    This is the reason we now call these 'negligent discharges' as opposed to 'accidental' ones.
    Not ALL my guns are loaded, there's no reason for that since they are mostly locked up.(why would anyone have dozens of loaded guns at one time?)
    But the ones that aren't 'locked up' are loaded.
    An unloaded gun is just an expensive brick!
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2012
  11. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    Actually, many of us still call them "accidental", using the definition of "accidental" - NOT ON PURPOSE.

    And as for "why have dozens of loaded guns" - why not?
  12. Charles Christensen

    Charles Christensen New Member

    Nov 13, 2011
    IMHO certain "lessons" stick better than others.
  13. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    North Florida
    Why would you have dozens of loaded guns at one time? Well, I always have and I always will. Every gun I grab is ready to rock. Why have unloaded guns?
  14. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    Negligent; Failing to excercise the care expected of a reasonably prudent person.

    Accident; An unexpected event.
    Legally, 'accident' is most often used for an event that occurs without the intervention of a human being.(Once known as an "act of God")

    Fact; Guns ARE dangerous tools!

    Basic rule of gun handling, treat every gun as loaded until confirmed otherwise.

    So when he pulled the trigger, what did he think would happen?

    So in fact, this was pure negligence, not an accident. You can bet if someone had been hurt, that's EXACTLY how the court would veiw it.

    And, IMO, there is NO point to 57 loaded guns in a safe(s).
    I can't possibly use that many, that's just silly.
    As I said, not ALL mine are loaded, what would be the point?
    As for ya'll that do, do what you like, it's a free country.
    Just remember your human, and humans make mistakes.
    The more chances for you to make a mistake, the more likely it will happen.
    The more loaded guns, the greater the chance for that mistake.
    Statistically, it's inarguable. But I'm sure some will!
  15. HAGEN442

    HAGEN442 New Member

    Aug 4, 2010
    The Dodge House, NC
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2012
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