Almost bought my first .22

Discussion in '.22-Rimfire Forum' started by clichedusername, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. clichedusername

    clichedusername New Member

    Sep 16, 2011
    After searching this forum and soliciting the advice of its members, and a lot of research, I placed a special order with a local gun shop for a Savage Mark II BTVLSS. I felt like kid waiting for Christmas to arrive. Everyday I would call the store and see it the gun had been shipped. Today I was told that the gun had arrived. All I needed to do was come and pick it up.
    Now one of the reasons I chose Savage was for the out of the box accuracy, craftsmanship, and quality. When the gentleman handling the sale lifted the rifle out of the box, I was thrilled. The gun was beautiful. It was all that I could do not to snatch it from his hands...
    Then I noticed the frown. I looked in the direction of his gaze, and for all intents and purposes, the trigger housing had fallen off. Apparently there are two screws that seat the bottom metal of the trigger housing to the gun. One sits in wood, and that screw had broken off. Because of that the second screw that attaches to the (I believe he told me the action) was loose. The bolt was moving all over the place and the barrel was wiggling in a distressing fashion. The gentleman took the gun into the back to see if there was anything that could be done. Upon returning he informed me that he was uncomfortable selling this rifle. I replied that I was most uncomfortable purchasing it.
    How could I have gotten shipped the one factory reject that may have ever left the Savage facility? Ohh well, hopefully he will receive the replacement rifle buy next Thursday... I am not a patient individual. Maybe I should call the shipping company and see what time they usually deliver packages. That way I can be in the store when it arrives. I guess I should go do some work and stop thinking about it.

    Future bulletins as events warrant.
  2. BETH

    BETH Well-Known Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    welcome to the forum, all good things come to those that wait

  3. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Mar 20, 2009
    Central, Ohio
    I am sure your experience with that delivery is unusual and in fact I would say it is quite rare. Don't let it dampen your enjoyment of you Savage when you finally get it.

    And welcome to TTF
  4. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
    Savage usually will make good with you. Theyll probably toss in a couple boxes of free ammo coupons. That kind of stuff happens on occasion, its not just savage. I have seen Brownings and Rugers shipped when they werent supposed to be too. Just understand that their plants are ran by people too, and people can make mistakes.

    Savage is a good company to deal with, theyll take care of it.
  5. Brisk44

    Brisk44 New Member

    Mar 6, 2011
    Welcome to the forum, sorry to hear about your rifle. You can be sure the next one they ship won't leave the factory til it's been gone over with a fine tooth comb.
  6. Chinook

    Chinook New Member

    Welcome aboard! Like everyone's already said. This kinda stuff happens. Not often, but a lot of us have been a round the block. I have dealt with Savage when they had my old 111 FNS in for repair after I accidentally dropped the rifle onto the end of the buttstock, trying to hand it to someone from on top of our camper. They even covererd the shipping cost, since they knew I was a full-time student. Savage is a great group of folks, motivated to bring us a quality product, at a competitive price. Enjoy the Mark II, and dont forget to give us the run-down after you take it to the range for the first time!
  7. American Leader

    American Leader Well-Known Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Welcome aboard cliche from the GREAT STATE OF IOWA! I'm sure Savage will make it right!:rolleyes:
  8. clichedusername

    clichedusername New Member

    Sep 16, 2011
    Thank y'all for your the kind words of encouragement. This is obviously an anomaly, but still annoying for an impatient and excited individual.
    Unfortunately I did not order from Savage but from the dealer, so no free ammo for me.
    This rifle is going to be my learning platform. When the rifle does arrive, and I give y'all the run-down, do not expect great things. It is quite unlikely that I will be posting pictures of ten shot quarter inch targets taken at one hundred yards like some of the marksmen on this forum.
    I do hope to get decent with a lot of practice though. Thank goodness .22 ammo is still relatively inexpensive.
  9. Regular Joe

    Regular Joe New Member

    Sep 28, 2010
    Speaking of ammo.... A really great way to keep yourself stoked up in anticipation of getting a functional rifle is to get a head start on some of the ammo to try with it. Bass Pro has the Rem./Eley target ammo I mentioned before, as well as the subsonic Win stuff. Sadly, they don't stock anything from CCI. The Walmart at Patrick and Russel have plenty of CCI.
    Also pick out a nice zippered case for it, and a small gunsmithing tool kit and boresnake. Don't EVER run a rod down that bore! Get some Hoppes #9 solvent, and Remoil for the outer finish.
    Keep your excitement up! When you get down to trying some different ammo and seeing that Yes, even YOU can shoot those one hole groups at 50 yards, you'll know you done good.
  10. clichedusername

    clichedusername New Member

    Sep 16, 2011
    Thanks for the ammo tip, Mr. Joe. I probably will head out today and see what I can find. I am truly curious if I will be able to tell a difference in ammo or if the gun likes one type more then another.
    Several years ago I was helping my granddad clean a pistol. He used a rod with swabs on the end to clean the barrel. Please forgive my ignorance, but why should I not use a rod in my barrel? Could my granddad have possible been damaging his pistol? Or should this rifle be treated differently?
    Thank you in advance for letting me pick your brain.
  11. bamajoey

    bamajoey Well-Known Member

    Aug 17, 2009
    I have several 22's that are tack drivers and don't even own a cleaning rod. All I ever use is a patch worm.
    While you are collecting ammo to try, get a box or two of Wolf Match Target or SK std +. You will have better luck with subsonic ammo if you are going for accuracy.
    By the way, if you find one of those 22 rifles that produce ten shot, quarter inch groups at 100yds, better buy two of them, they're rare.:thumbsup:
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2011
  12. Regular Joe

    Regular Joe New Member

    Sep 28, 2010
    I used cleaning rods for decades with no apparent ill effect, but the potential is always there. These days, I use a kind of patchworm of my own making. It's just a piece of masons' line with a loop at one end. I put the patch thru the loop, then run the loose end thru the bore. I put the loose end back thru the loop as well, so I can just keep pulling it thru for multiple passes, changing the patch and what ever it gets wet with, or dry patches to end with.
    With a .22 it will almost never have lead deposits. When you're comparing ammo, it can be good to start with a clean bore, then fire 5 or 10 rounds to "season the bore" with the lube of the bullet variety you mean to check. Then fire your accuracy rounds. When you're done with one ammo type, clean the bore with 2 passes of swabs soaked in Hoppes', then 2 dry patches, and repeat the seasoning with the next ammo type.
    It is a good idea to keep a nice brass cleaning rod on hand, in case a bullet ever gets lodged in your bore. There's really no other way to get it back out.
    In testing ammo, do try some of the Federal Lightening from walmart. It's cheap, and popular as a fairly accurate load. The big trick in finding your preferred ammo is to compromise between accuracy and price. With a bit of testing, you can probably find a plinking round for around 4 cents each that is accurate enough to keep the fun in the game.
    BTW- While you're out looking at things, don't forget to get a pair or 2 (they're cheap) of shooting glasses, and some kind of ear protection. I'm already deaf in higher frequencies, so I usually forego the ears, but I get stuff hitting my glasses all the time.
  13. clichedusername

    clichedusername New Member

    Sep 16, 2011
    The newest update is as follows:
    I drove to the gun store yesterday. The Mark II was expected to have arrived by then. Indeed the rifle was in the store. Its employees brought it out for my inspection. Jokingly, I asked them to insure that this guns' trigger housing was solidly seated. I was shocked when again the trigger housing popped off. Confused I left again without a rifle.
    Today the store called to say that the supplier of my rifle had never been contacted, and the replacement gun order had just been placed this morning. The gun that I was almost handed was the same rifle from last week. Now it will be an additional one or two weeks for the order can be processed, shipped and arrive.
    At this point the store that I am dealing with is making me agitated. Is there a way I can buy the gun through Savage, and have it shipped to a different FFL? The customer service that Savage provides would undoubtedly be more satisfying and I do not really want to deal with a middleman anymore.
    Still excited about a long future of shooting a beautiful rifle... and hoping that dream of a happy future will occur in the not to distant future.
  14. Brisk44

    Brisk44 New Member

    Mar 6, 2011
    If they have actually called in the replacement order this time then probably not if they haven't then cancel the order get your money back and order ffrom Savage and find a different FFL to receive it.If you do have to go with the original FFL I'd complain and maybe he'll knock some off the price or give you some ammo.
    Sorry you're having so much trouble.
  15. Regular Joe

    Regular Joe New Member

    Sep 28, 2010
    It doesn't surprise me a bit that ineptitude is the feeling you get at Bass Pro. For a KNOWN good bunch of guys who are close to you, I would recommend Lock 'n' Load, located at about Eastern and Serene.
    There ya' go! They're the place I told you about where black rifles are pretty common. Good people are common there too, and they probably know just who to call.
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