'American Police Force' in Hardin, MT?...

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  1. dge479

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    Seriously , you have to look hard for someone that dislikes B.O more than me, but the wheels for this was set in motion some time ago. He is 1 link in a long chain of events and people that got us here.
    These are camps for the free thinking non sheeple
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    Posse Comitatus Act was nulified by the patriot act under Bush.

    Didnt you get the memo?

    Do to the states delay in asking for federal help after Katrina, They now can bypass the states rights all together.

    Some states have rewritten thier consititutions just in case they are "invaded" by the Feds.
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    I don't believe that this is a private security company either. But you bring up a good point, this is a way to skirt Posse Comitatus:mad::mad:
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    EVERYTHING was nullified by Bush with his Enabling Act....er...I mean Patriot Act:mad::mad::mad::mad:
  6. Bobitis

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    No offense peeps, but the National Guard has been called out for decades to control volital situations. Remember Kent State?

    Back to topic. This is their website.

    http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/index.html

    If you read about their 'bragging' rights, it appears that they can do anything they want. Shoot just cuz, forensic science, spy on your spouse (why stoop to that level:rolleyes:), investigate workmans comp claims, protect ships in international water (where firearms ar NOT allowed on board)....

    I'm calling BS!

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    For being such a diverse, educated, globaly trained, multilingual group of ambulance chasers; you'd think that they'd have an older sight than May 2009.

    When did spousal spies become qualified to train military spec ops to the military for spec ops?:rolleyes:

    The whole concept is a red herring tossed out to the people.

    Lets see......

    March 2009:
    Swine flu is at epidemic proportions. People aren't buying it.
    April:
    Swine flu facts don't support the claims as put forth by the administration or science.
    May:
    Make up a website that will terrorize the people.
    June:
    Meh
    July:
    Meh
    August:
    Meh

    September:
    Kids go back to school and it's again an epidemic!
    Now we have the APF on the scene.

    Stir the pot and see what comes to the surface.

    It's the motto of our current administration.
    They have NO clue of what they are doing, so they just toss something out there and wait for a response. Then they hold up their fingers and see which way the wind blows.

    The US currently houses about 3.5 million bodies in prisons and jails. Our criminal housing is bulging at the seams.

    Where are they gonna put 100 million of us that don't wanna take the needle?

    It's all about the needle. Why?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6m7NR6iYjg&feature=related

    Be very afraid of your government. They know not what they do.
    But they'll take all the advice they can get. Unless they don't like it.:mad:

    Then they'll just toss something else out there.
    Can't let a contrived crises go to waste after all!:eek:
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    I hope them hired guns know MT if plum full of patriots
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    They may be fixin' to find that out:):):):)
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    Ponycar, Triple- Canopy is the one I believe you're looking for. (but I have no idea as to their involvement here)

    And contracting companies such as Blackwater and some Israeli? firm were also used in Katrina. But they're not 'military' so they don't count, right?

    It's also amazing to me that the ICE detention facility near me has been pursuing a federal contract doubling their 'civilian' counterpart staff for about a year now. The kicker is they're going through an unnamed Mexican company to do so- replacing "Security Services -" something or other- something vague anyway. Wish I could give some more info, but they're concealed from even their local employment rep.....? Not so much as a telephone number! I just don't know sometimes..
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    Its a big state but people will travel for some fun don't ya know. ;):D
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    I have been waxing the old 8mm and the .338 ever since I got home. I will even bring along the foul smelling brother. He just loves a good ole huntin trip.
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    Isn't the Little Big Horn up there somewhere close-by???:eek: I wonder how these clowns will feel when a million screaming pats. come down on them???:mad:
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    Alex Jones is at the facility and broadcasting from there now.
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    ontana AG Launches Probe of Town's Jail Deal
    Montana AG launches investigation of jail deal with Calif. entrepreneur who has checkered past
    By MATTHEW BROWN Associated Press Writer
    BILLINGS, Mont. October 1, 2009 (AP)
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    In this Friday, Sept. 25, 2009 picture, Michael Hilton stands outside the city offices after meeting... Expand
    In this Friday, Sept. 25, 2009 picture, Michael Hilton stands outside the city offices after meeting with Hardin, Mont. officials. Hilton pitched himself to the city as a military veteran turned private sector entrepreneur - a California defense contractor with extensive government contracts who promised to turn the rural city's empty jail into a cash cow. But now a much different picture of Hilton is emerging from public documents and interviews with his associates and legal adversaries. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown) Collapse
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    Montana's attorney general has launched an investigation into a California company's plan to take over the city of Hardin's $27 million jail, following revelations that the company's lead figure is a convicted felon with a history of fraud.

    Michael Hilton, who formed Santa Ana, Calif.-based American Police Force in March, came to Hardin last month promising to fill the city's never-used jail and build an adjacent military and law enforcement training center.

    Hilton has a decades-long track record of fraudulent activities and spent several years in a California prison on grand theft charges. The native of Montenegro uses at least 17 aliases.

    Attorney General Steve Bullock said Thursday he is asking Hardin officials for all documents related to their dealings with Hilton and American Police Force.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

    BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Michael Hilton showed up in Hardin, Mont., last week, presenting himself as an economic savior, the man who would take over the town's $27 million jail — empty since it was built as a development project in 2007 — and provide 200 new jobs in the process.

    He wore a military-style uniform, and as a gesture to local law enforcement offered up the use of three Mercedes SUVs.

    But the man who styles himself as a military veteran turned private sector entrepreneur and a California defense contractor with extensive government contracts also has another image, and that one is provided by public documents and interviews with associates and legal adversaries.

    The record says that he is a convicted felon with at least 17 aliases, a string of legal judgments against him, two bankruptcies and a decades-long reputation for deals gone bad.

    American Police Force is the company Hilton formed in March to take over the Hardin jail.

    "Such schemes you cannot believe," said Joseph Carella, an Orange County, Calif., doctor and co-defendant with Hilton in a real estate fraud case that resulted in a civil judgment against Hilton and several others.
  17. Bobitis

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    Dang!
    I should consider a career change.:rolleyes:
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    AG launches probe of Hardin jail company


    By JENNIFER McKEE IR State Bureau | Posted: Friday, October 2, 2009 12:00 am | (1) Comments
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    Montana Attorney General Steve Bullock launched an investigation Thursday into American Police Force, the California company founded by a Serbian immigrant with a lengthy criminal history that is seeking to run an empty, 464-bed jail in Hardin.
    Bullock sent a nine-page demand letter late Thursday afternoon to Becky Shay, the spokeswoman for APF and the company's only Montana employee.
    Shay did not immediately respond to phone calls Thursday.
    According to the document, Bullock is launching the civil investigation into APF over concerns that the company might be violating the Montana Unfair Trade Practices and Consumer Protection Act.
    Among other things, Bullock demanded that the company provide proof for many statements about the company included on APF's Web site. The site says that the company frequently has contracts with the U.S. government and has operations in all 50 states.
    Research into the company has turned up no record of APF contracting with the federal government. Bullock has requested that the company provide proof of its federal contracts and operations in other states.
    Bullock also requested a copy of the contract between APF and Two Rivers Authority, the economic development arm of the city of Hardin, which built the jail two years ago.
    The contract is reportedly a 10-year, multimillion-dollar deal with APF to run the jail.
    Although Michael Hilton, the man behind APF, and local officials say the deal is as good as done, US Bank, the trustee for the bonds sold to build the jail, has never signed off on it.
    Bullock further requested that the company disclose any lawsuits filed against the company or Hilton and provide the state with any correspondence between APF and any government agency that has accused the company of being deceptive.
    Bullock also sent a letter Thursday to Gary Arneson and Al Peterson, leaders of Two Rivers Authority. Peterson could not be reached for comment Thursday.
    Both letters were sent the day after The Billings Gazette and Associated Press reported that Hilton has an extensive criminal past with $1.1 million in outstanding civil judgments against him. Hilton, who has a long list of aliases, left his native Serbia in the 1970s and has served time in U.S. prisons.
    Hilton uses the military title "captain," but said this week it does not refer to an actual military rank. Hilton has claimed he has military experience, but no record of such experi-ence has been found.
    Also on Thursday, Montana's three-man congressional delegation all said they have questions about APF, even as they support Hardin's efforts to drum up jobs for its people.
    "Like many Montanans, Max is keeping an eye on the situation in Hardin," said Ty Matsdorf, a spokesman for Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont.
    Aaron Murphy, a spokesman for Sen. Jon Tester, also a Democrat, said Tester has "a lot of questions" about APF. "Hardin and all of Montana need to benefit from whatever's in store for the Two Rivers jail."
    A spokesman for Rep. Denny Rehberg, a Republican, said "important questions need to be answered," and added "any deal that creates jobs and economic prosperity without putting Montanans at risk is something Denny would support in any way he can."
    Rehberg in May wrote a letter to state officials urging Montana to consider placing its own inmates at the jail if the state needed more prison cells.
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    Sounds like a cabinet level person in charge.
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    So it is a Serbian and it does seem like they're going to be toast very soon... I can't believe they made it this long. It's amazing what some scam artists can accomplish.... Just look at our (p)resident!... :eek:
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