Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by tgsherman, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. tgsherman

    tgsherman New Member

    Apr 16, 2007
    What is the best non-steel casing cartridge to use in a Rock River Arms LAR-15, 5.56 Nato? Want it for target practice & just general use as protection. I was told to not use Wolf ammo or steel casing ammo.

  2. CHW2021

    CHW2021 Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Not a direct answer, but if you know the barrel twist rate you can start with the bullet weight. Otherwise, buy a few different brands and see what make gives you the best accuracy.
    The "prohibition" re. steel cased ammo is from possible extraction problems that include the melting of the lacquer coating in the chamber as it heats up; the built up lacquer would need to be brushed away with solvent.
    Some rifles shoot wolf ect.... very well, others just don't like it at all. Individual results may vary, but, the cheaper steel cased ammo is and can be fine to shoot at the range.

  3. ignats

    ignats Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    I've used Wolfe ammo mostly in 45ACP and never had a problem with it. I've even reloaded it without any problems. I've heard the stories about stuck cases etc, but I guess I've been lucky. I read an ad at one site that sells stating they were using a different coating material that would not cause problems, so I suppose there had been some complaints in the past. YMMV
  4. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver Active Member

    Mar 4, 2009
    SW. Florida
    Either will work. The average shooter will not be able to tell the difference between .223 Rem. and 5.56mm NATO rounds. The latter produces a little more pressure & velocity, but not enough to notice.

    I don't use any steel cased ammo in my RRA AR rifle, but it's a personal choice. Your LAR-15 should be able to digest it fine. Cost wise, using the cheapest ammo for range fun makes sense, but I like to shoot the stuff I would use every day for defensive purposes.

    Enjoy your RRA rifle, it's a good choice.
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2012
  5. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    I'm never a big advocate of using steel case ammo in any AR but if that's what the budget allows then wolf is the only one that really works well. If your AR refuses to run properly on steel casings, don't be surprised or force it to. Never use Tula ammo.
  6. CHW2021

    CHW2021 Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Why do you say not to use Tula ammo?
  7. Cajun Chooter

    Cajun Chooter New Member

    Jul 18, 2011
    Houma, La
    I have shot Tula 223 ammo in my Bushmaster AR.. without any problems
    but i don't shoot rapid fire very much...(range here prohibits rapid fire) i have heard that shooting lots of rapid fire heats up the breach and melts the lacquer on steel casings.. wonder how the russian military uses it without problems ?
  8. CCHolderinMaine

    CCHolderinMaine Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    Steep Falls, Maine
    I'm sure there's a ton of folks here that can suggest the best bullet weights/loads etc. But, I'd like to add that at the range (my backyard, I'm lucky) I shoot the cheapest Tul-Ammo and Herter's steel I can buy. I never shoot corrosive ammo mind you, but in plinking situations, why not shoot the cheapest ammo my gun will reliably feed/fire? I've never had an issue in my Windham Weaponry AR.
  9. zkovach

    zkovach Well-Known Member

    Oct 7, 2009
    I've had a lot of luck with bulk surplus and pmc.
  10. Jonathan Metelski

    Jonathan Metelski New Member

    Nov 6, 2012
    oak lawn il
    well tulammo and wolf i have heard of it rusting but if you look at brown bear it is steal cased but has a lacquer coating but even with that it can melt off iv very high heat. But if you go with silver bear it is steal cased but coated on ZINK works great.
  11. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    Every box of PMC ive ever bought has at least 1 cartridge that failed to fire because of a dead primer.I guess thats why its cheap korean stuff so i just use my kinetic hammer and break it down and reload it.
  12. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    North Florida
    I buy and shoot russian steel case coated ammo all the time and I can honestly say I have never had an issue.
  13. ka64

    ka64 Well-Known Member

  14. zant

    zant Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2009
    You can buy loaded ammo???:)......I've shot Wolf and Tula with NO problems(I prefer Tula primers,low ES)...but 99% of my 5.56 shooting is reloads.
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