AND, The NRA wants to Support REID.

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Marlin, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

    [FONT=&quot]This is from today's GOA Newsletter. The documentation can be easily proven. This man is as ANTI-GUN as they come.....[/FONT]

    Is Harry Reid pro-gun or anti-gun?[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]-- --- You Decide[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Nevada Senator Harry Reid claims to be a defender of the Second Amendment. Is that really the case? You decide. Here is a list of votes he has cast over the past twenty years in the U.S. Senate:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]1. June 28, 1991—Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases (Vote No. 115).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]2. November 19, 1993—Voted to eliminate the five-year sunset in the Brady Bill's five day waiting period, which would have made the waiting period permanent (Vote No. 386).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]3. November 19, 1993—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Brady Bill (Vote No. 387).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]4. November 20, 1993—Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun (Vote No. 394).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]5. August 25, 1994—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assualt weapons ban; Vote No. 294).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]6. August 25, 1994—Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assault weapons" ban; Vote No. 295).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]7. April 17, 1996—Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in the National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years (Vote No. 64).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]8. June 27, 1996—Voted to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of .30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program (Vote No. 178).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]9. September 12, 1996—Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder (Vote No. 287).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]10. September 12, 1996—Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of any school, private or public, and impose a 5-year prison sentence for violating the law (Vote No. 290).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]11. July 28, 1998—Voted against killing an amendment offered by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) to prohibit the importation of firearm magazines holding over 10 rounds that were manufactured before the 1994 ban was enacted (Vote No. 240).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]12. May 12, 1999—Voted to ban the private sales of firearms at gun shows unless buyers submitted to background registration checks. Draconian restrictions would have also been imposed on gun show promoters, expanding federal authority in this area (Vote No. 111).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]13. May 13, 1999—Voted to ban the importation of ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds (Vote No. 116).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]14. May 14, 1999—Voted for an amendment introduced by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) that would regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet (Vote No. 119).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]15. May 18, 1999—Voted for an amendment to force gun sellers to include trigger locks with every handgun sold (Vote No. 122).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]16. May 20, 1999—Voted for legislation to subject repair shop and pawn shop transactions to the same registration and background check requirements as purchases from dealers—even if a person was reclaiming his own firearm (Vote No. 133).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]17. May 20, 1999—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would ban private sales at gun shows, unless the buyer first submits to a background registration check. Even displaying a firearm at a gun show, and subsequently transferring that gun to a non-licensee, would result in a two-year prison sentence. The amendment would also have granted BATF open-ended inspection authority to harass vendors at gun shows, and explicitly gives BATF the right to keep a gun owner registration list for up to 90 days. This amendment passed 51-50, with Vice President Al Gore breaking the tie (Vote No. 134).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]18. May 20, 1999—Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a host of gun control provisions (Vote No. 140).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]19. July 28, 1999—Voted to end a filibuster on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill. The filibuster was led by Sen. Bib Smith (R-NH) because of concerns with the gun control provisions in the bill (Vote No. 224).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]20. February 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) to help the cities bring frivolous suits against gun makers (Vote No. 4).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]21. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) blaming school violence on the fact that Congress "failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures" and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (Vote No. 28).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]22. March 2, 2000—Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements (Vote No. 32).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]23. April 6, 2000—Voted for and cosponsored a "sense of the Senate" amendment urging the passage of new gun control restrictions (Vote No. 64).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]24. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) urging the passage of the ant-gun juvenile crime bill being opposed by GOA (Vote No. 28).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]25. April 10, 2000—Voted for a non-binding amendment offered by Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) urging the House-Senate conferees to get the juvenile anti-gun bill to the floor of each chamber by April 20 (Vote No. 64).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]26. May 17, 2000—Voted with 29 other F-rated Senators against an amendment stating "the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed." (Vote No. 103).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]27. May 17, 2000—Voted for a resolution praising the participants of the so-called Million Mom March, and calling on Congress to pass the anti-gun juvenile crime bill that GOA was fighting (Vote No. 104).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]28. April 2, 2001—Voted for the Incumbent Protection Act, so-called campaign finance reform (Vote No. 64).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]29. March 20, 2002—Voted to end a filibuster of the odious Incumbent Protection bill. The blatantly unconstitutional legislation squelches the voice of groups like Gun Owners of America in the final days before an election. By making it difficult, if not impossible, for groups to criticize the anti-gun actions of legislators prior to an election, incumbents are able to duck accountability for those actions (Vote No. 53).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]30. February 26, 2004—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms (Vote No. 17).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]31. March 2, 2004—Voted to outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to submit to an FBI background registration check. This legislative would have effectively eliminated gun shows because of stringent requirements placed on event sponsors (Vote No. 25).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]32. July 28, 2005—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need (Vote No. 207).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]33. September 29, 2005—Voted against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice. Roberts' record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 245).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]34. January 18, 2007—Voted against an amendment to strike language in a bill that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like GOA by requiring them to monitor and report on communications with members, and could easily have led to government demands for organizational membership list (a.k.a. registration) (Vote No. 17).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]35. January 31, 2006—Voted against Samuel Alito for Supreme Court Justice. Justice Alito's record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 2) .[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]36. February 2, 2009—Voted to confirm Eric Holder as Attorney General. Holder was an anti-Second Amendment official for the Clinton administration, and has called for a renewal of the Clinton gun ban (Vote No. 32).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]37. March 19, 2009—Voted to massively expand the amount of land covered by the National Parks gun ban. As Majority Leader, Reid frustrated the efforts of pro-gun Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) for more than a year to repeal the gun ban. Sen. Coburn's position ultimately prevailed after overcoming Reid's opposition later in 2009 (Vote No. 106).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]38. June 25, 2009—Voted to confirm Harold Koh as Legal Advisor to the Department of State. GOA warned all Senators that Koh is a radical globalist pushing for worldwide gun control regulation, including the UN Treaty on Small Arms (Vote No. 213).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]39. August 6, 2009—Voted to confirm Sonya Sotomayor as Supreme Court Justice. GOA warned all Senators that Judge Sotomayor's record on gun rights was one of hostility to the Second Amendment, which was born out in her dissent in the McDonald decision (Vote No. 262).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]40. September 9, 2009—Voted to confirm Cass Sunstein as Administrator of Regulatory Affairs (Regulatory Czar). GOA notified all Senators that Cass Sunstein is a radical leftist who would like to ban hunting and give animals some of the same rights as humans in the courtroom (Vote No. 273).[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]41. December 24, 2009—Reid used his position as Majority Leader to pass the ObamaCare legislation. This bill will allow the BATFE and FBI to troll through the ObamaCare database for gun owners who would be disqualified because of their medical information (Vote No. 396).[/FONT]

  2. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    Well, he's more pro gun than Nancy Pelochit, but that ain't saying much! :D

    If they do support this rat, I say we get off the ship and play a dirge as it sinks.

  3. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    The NRA has, AND continues to support this d-bag.:eek:

    I'd like to know why.:mad:
  4. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    The NRA is looking ahead. IF Reid is defeated, but the Dems retain control of the Senate, a good bet for Majority Leader would be Chuck Schumer, without a doubt the most fanatical hater of guns and gun owners in Congress. A Majority Leader Schumer would immediately move an assault weapons ban, severe handgun restrictions, a ban on rifle ownership except for a few "authorized" hunters, and probably a ban on pump and autoloading shotguns. He would want total gun confiscation, but probably wouldn't be able to go that far.

    So it depends a bit on the situation in the fall. If it looks like the Repubs will take control of the Senate easily, then voting against Reid makes sense. But if it looks like the Dems will retain control, Reid will be inestimably better than Schumer and will be even less inclined to support new gun control legislation if he knows the NRA helped him keep his seat.

    Last edited: Jul 15, 2010
  5. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    So.... their position is to, pander to expediency of the moment/situation.

    Wow, that's integrity.

    So their support can be "bought" then. Interesting.

    They called me the other night and hit me up for over $200 for the "fight against the gun haters in congress." What bullcrap. I told 'em to get lost. I'm not buying their rhetoric anymore.
  6. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Marlin, who did you vote for in the last Presidential election? Don't answer, it's a retorical question. You, like so many others, including myself, probably voted for McCain. Believe me when I say that I did not want McCain for President, but I voted for the lesser of two evils. Most probably, you did too! Sometimes it's the only choice we have.
  7. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    As I've said on here before, If every gun owning American had gone out and voted for the 3rd party candidate, we wouldn't be having many of the conversations we now have about the executive branch. :rolleyes: But, people have to stop buying into the choosing the "lesser of two evils" process, IMHO.

    If they have an R or D in front of their name, don't vote for them (except for one, and that would be Ron Paul).

    EDIT: Sorry, when I say "3rd Party," I'm of course referring to the Libertarian candidates, that ran in the presidential election. Were they perfect? No. Better than the other two choices? Hands down.
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2010
  8. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Three choices means that the Consertive vote gets split two ways. Insuring the Liberal's win. Would I have liked to see Ron Paul in the White House? Yes! A much better choice than McCain. However, Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution specifies how many electors each state is entitled to have and that each state's legislature decides how its electors are to be chosen. All of these people are either Republicant's, or Demoncrats, and that's the way they will vote. This is where we must start. We really don't get to choose who sits in the highest seat in the Country, the Electoral College does. Let's be sure to vote in true constitutional consertive legislatures in November. Then if Ron Paul runs again, he just might have a chance!
  9. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    Get rid of Reid. I don't care what the NRA says about him, he's a piece of crap.
  10. Ditto :(

    No your wrong. As it stands the republicans look to be picking up enough seats to get to 51 seats and thus a majorty... any and all attempts to help MR GUN BAN will only help the Democrats keep control cause the vote will land on a 50/50 split and the Vice pres gets to vote as the tie breaker.

    NO I see this as a clear betral by THE NRA and I have turned in my card and I WILL NEVER support them again.

    I am also calling the other gun clubs that I belong to and telling them whats going on and if they continue to support the NRA then I wont support them.

    Give a gun Hater a inch and they will take a mile and the NRA is giving them that inch.
  11. Millwright

    Millwright Well-Known Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Perhaps some here feel the rabidly anti-firearm Senator Schumer (D-NY) would be a better choice as Majority Leader ? !!! This is what will happen if Reid is unseated. >MW
  12. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    The libs are going to loose so big that it doesn't matter who supports Reid. Chucky will not rise to Senate Majority leader because he won't be able too.

    You have got to stop playing politics and elect honorable people to replace the RINO's and Dems.

    It's time to elect TEA Party folks and remove the career politicians.
  13. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    I'm tired of electing the worse of two evils.
    I'm tired of the NRA endorsing the lesser of two evils.
    The ONLY way to stop this mentality is to stop funding it.:mad:

    Perhaps my logic is wrong, but it doesn't feel like it.

    We need to stop this madness. The sooner the better.:mad:

    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
  14. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    ^ RIGHT ON BOB ^
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