Another M44 headspace question

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    NuclearMeltdown
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    I recently came across a 1946 Ishevsk manufactured M44. The bolt matches, but the floorplate doesn't. It had the usual cosmoline, and appeared to be unissued/excellent or an arsenal rework.

    So the question is: with the matching bolt number in consideration, is it worth it to order a headspace measuring gage? If so, would the best option be no-go, field, or the go gage?



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    It should be cheaper to have your local gunsmith check the headspace. Can be done while you wait.


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    Thanks...now the problem is finding a gunsmith around here...

    Any ammo suggestions? Most of what I have seen is corrosive stuff in green lacquered cases left over from the Cold War. Norma is expensive... This Wolf brand stuff seems like the best choice. Are there problems with the lacquer coating?


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    If your 'smith gives the thumbs up on the headspacing, the lacquered cases won't be a problem. The Wolf brand ammo has been known to have quality control problems. Sometimes the primers get installed backward and sometimes sideways. Seller & Belloit will be a better choice at a slightly higher price.
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    Bob In St Louis
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    The one thing to remember with the laquer covered cases is to clean your chamber thoroughly after use - the laquer will tend to build up in there.

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    Hmm, I must be in the minority here, but I think it's worth the investment to buy a field gauge. Especially if you plan to buy more Mosins in the future. Paying a smitty to check it may be cheaper initially, I don't know. But the gauge only costs $18. And as you shoot that gun more and more, you'll want to recheck the headspace to make sure it's still within spec.

    Traditional headspace gauges for 7.62x54R require removal of the extractor from the bolt head. It is difficult to do on a Mosin, and most people end up bending or breaking the extractor trying to get it out.

    I suggest the "coin style" field gauge from Yankee Engineers. No extractor removal is required. You just slip it on the bolt head (it has a cutout for the extractor) and see if the bolt closes. If the bolt does close, then you have excessive headspace. If not, then you're OK.

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    NuclearMeltdown
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    Does Wolf brand have corrosive primers?

    Which is the gauge choice...no-go or field? I've heard suggestions for both.

    1952Sniper
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    Wolf is non-corrosive.

    Go with the field gauge. The NOGO gauge is only for the initial headspace setting at the arsenal. It is not meant to be the ultimate headspace gauge for field use.

    In other words, when the arsenal sets the barrel, they make sure that the headspace is between the GO and NOGO gauges. Once the rifle goes into service, the field gauge is the one to use. Anybody who refuses to buy a rifle just because it fails the NOGO gauge is being way too conservative. And they're probably missing out on a lot of good rifles too.
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    NuclearMeltdown
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    (2/27/03 5:20:57 pm)
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    Thanks guys...I think I'll be ready to fire here soon.
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