Another "REMF" memory

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    nighthawksh
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    (12/3/01 5:00:01 pm)
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    I don’t have the good stories which I am sure some of our members could tell, but, since no one else seems to want to post anything, perhaps I can entertain ya’ll with a few more of my “REMF” memories.

    The ‘powers that be” at HQ. MACV, decided the troops needed some type of “physical training”. I think this was just an excuse for them to get out of the office. At any rate, we were encouraged to participate in some sort of sports activity. When a friend (Bob) from Long Binh came for a visit, he and my friend Jack talked me into going to the Saigon Country Club for a round of golf. This is the same two friends I told you about on the trip to the Saigon Zoo. Showed ya’ll the pictures.
    Now, I know what you are going to say about golf courses, but if you check, you will find there were 5 golf courses available to American GI’s in Vietnam. I have not found out yet exactly where they all were, but there was one in Saigon (adjacent to Ton Son Nhut AFB), and I believe one in Cam Rahn Bay, one at Da Nang, and I think, one at Vung Tau, but not sure of that one, as to the fifth?? Don’t know! Just read the number somewhere. Guess I better do some more research.
    Anyway, this ol’ country boy had never spent anytime on a golf course. But, I figured, I’d try anything at least once. Now, I had nothing to compare with, but this course did not seem too bad. Of course, this course had “bunkers” stocked with M-60s and ARVN troops. In fact, Gen Abram’s always had an extra platoon of US troops to provide protection whene he played, which was at least once a week.
    So, when Jack, Bob, and I got there, it was quite an experience. There were no carts. (Darn wartime hardships!). We played a round of 18 holes. The course had a “refreshment” hooch about every 3 or 4 holes, so we did not have to worry about dehydration. Plus, our VN “caddy” would get more if we needed. Bamiba (sp) is not too bad on a hot day of golf. Of course, after about half way through the course, we did not really care much about the game. I think I stopped keeping score around Hole 10. (By that time my score was up around 100 anyway). Keep in mind, I had no idea what I was doing, but I sure took care of the 33's. We played on the rest of the course. Not too sure how we got back to the compound. I played there twice more after that, but not since. The way I play, that is best.

    I had to let Bob sleep it off on the floor of my hootch. Sent him back the next day. That was the last time I saw him. He went home a month later. Died 3 months after that.

    Two footnotes:
    (1) The Saigon Country Club, like the Pho To racetrack, was a major infiltration route into Saigon and Ton Son Nhut for the Communist during Tet 68 and again in May ’69.
    (2) I consider Bob a casualty of the war. When he returned, his wife was living with another guy. She was sleeping with as many guys as she could, plus doing some heavy drugs, doing the “hippy” commune thing. And she refused to let him see his kids. I heard it got very ugly. He could not take this, and ate his pistol. I know, this happens all the time. But, perhaps, if he had not gone? Anyway, that’s my opinion. I had known this guy in the States and in Germany before VN, and he had been pretty stable. I guess I will never know. Somethings in this life just plain suck.

    Stan H ,, nighthawk

    I may not agree with what you say,
    but I shall defend to the death your right to say it

    Edited by: nighthawksh at: 12/4/01 3:41:00 pm

    hope6970
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    (12/4/01 1:35:19 am)
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    nighthawk,

    I am sorry to read about your friend, what a sad end after all he had gone through.

    I can't remember when you were assigned to MACV but I was at USARV in 69. Now for the life of me all the time I was at Long Binh I never heard of a golf course. However, by where you said it was located I don't believe I missed too much, I didn't get to Saigon but a few times. lol When in Vung Tau I had my eyes on the beach and probably completely missed the golf course. (although the sand had blobs of oil on it from all the ships)

    I did learn of a swimming pool, I had heard someone speak of a movie theater (which by the way I never heard of) we always had our movies at the WAC compound. You know how we lived sheltered lives...lol

    There is one thing you can tell me about if you have any recollection, how good did the military gals have it that were assigned to Saigon? I had a chance to transfer over there but I decided it best to stay where I was. In that place, the not knowing kind of made you think twice.

    We had a rocket come into the Hdqts. and destroy one of the gals desk, it happened at night so she was quite lucky, she wasn't working at the time. That was when I began to think I had made a mistake..lol

    Hope

    nighthawksh
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    (12/4/01 3:34:59 pm)
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    Hope

    I was incountry fall '68 to fall '69

    do not know if there was a golf course on Long Binh or not,,,

    as far as the female soldiers at MACV, I did not have very many encounters with them. We did not have any working in my division, though I knew of a few who worked in places such as Personnel Records,Actions, Orders, and Awards & Decorations. I did know one Air Force E-4 woman. That is a story unto itself. If I recall correctly, all female personnel were billited downtown Saigon in a hotel. I seem to recall an MP friend talking about having "escort duty" one evening. This meant riding 'shotgun" on the shuttle bus which took the females to and from their billets. I also remember some fuss about females riding one bus, and the male NCOs and Officers that were billited downtown having to ride a separate bus. I guess the military was concerned about "fraternization". some things never change.
    the females were not required to pull "guard duty" (most did not have weapons). I do know a few somehow "acquired" a weapon. I had seen more that one , usually with an old M-2 carbine. I can not blame them for that.
    the stupid thing was, personnel assigned to HQ MACV were not supposed to carry their weapons when off duty. Of course, almost everybody did.
    Stan H ,, nighthawk

    I may not agree with what you say,
    but I shall defend to the death your right to say it

    Edited by: nighthawksh at: 12/4/01 3:40:03 pm

    Remf
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    (12/4/01 9:20:07 pm)
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    Do you remember those shower buildings? The ones that had a sheet of plywood midway for the walls?
    At Camp Eagle the Seabees had one set on the edge of their camp. we Signal remfs were set up on a knoll over looking it.
    A USO show came around once. ( nobody famous, they were from the Phillipines ) But since the Seabees were more civilized than the rest of us the entertainers were put up in the Seabee camp.
    We weren't allowed to go which kind of disappointed us. So that evening we were sitting around our hooches drinking beer & playing records ( remember them? ). Well the USO girls had worked hard & after dark hit the showers. The fine upstanding Seabees started doing the low crawl to the shower building because they could lay next to the wall and get a real good show looking under the plywood wall.
    I had me one of those spotlight flashlights that used the 6 volt batteries. So we waited until everyone was in position and then spotlighted all those guys. Talk about action... as soon as that light hit them, the girls in the showers could see what was going on. They started yelling, the seabees wanted to kill us, and we all spilled our beer in the dirt laughing so hard. It took a long time for them to forgive us for that.
    Chief, You weren't in that group. were you?

    hope6970
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    (12/6/01 12:41:25 am)
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    Nighthawk, thanks for the comeback. I believe I am glad I stayed where I was. The "fraternization" problem you speak of, I never had that problem. I was constantly around officers, if I hadn't have been able to talk with them, I would have had a very lonesome life. A few of them were like a father to me. I was very lucky. I thought of the problem when I first arrived there and thought I was going to be in for a real life of hell, all officers and all men to boot but we had an understanding and I enjoyed my job. - Hope




    hope6970
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    (12/6/01 12:51:54 am)
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    Remf,

    I do remember those shower stalls, however the WACs were lucky enough to have an all enclosed latrine with shower stalls.

    That was a hilarious story. I could picture what you were saying. I bet you had a laugh to share for a long time.

    Thanks for sharing, it brought back a few funny memories of the shower escapades. - Hope

    high2fly
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    (12/9/01 12:20:54 pm)
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    Dang, I just go over to read about your run-in with the Camp Eagle Seabees--that was pretty good but no, I t'wernt there---I was up at Dong Ha where we used sand blasters to clean ourselves---no showers for us guys!!! Wilborn

    Remf
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    (12/9/01 4:04:07 pm)
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    That happened right before they found out I was playing with explosives & sent me out to live on FB Bastogne for the rest of my tour. No showers there either.
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