Antique 45-70 Rolling Block Saddle Rifle

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    make life easier i'll stick this here for a sec..

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    but your other link dont work .. sorry
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    to me that small bar below the saddle ring marks it as a remington
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    Thanks I couldn't figure out how to post images
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    here'as one to compare

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    see the bar with the rounded ends?

    the trigger guard profile matches and the rear sling placement make this a early cavalry carbine in my mind

    YO! Early rem Experts , need your view ( i'm fairly knew to the remingtons )
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    The only marks we can find on it are FB on the upper top portion of the barrel and not showed in the images is a small B on the side of the barrel. There also seems to be a number stamped into the butt stock but won't show up in images.
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    i have no idea on the marks but its a remington rolling block in a honest condition ,
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    when you want to post a link to a pic, see the little picture icon on the reply toolbar ? hit that and paste your link in there , it'll turn it into a image ..
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    Thanks on the help with the pics. So what could the age and value of this rifle be. It's in perfect working condition. The action is amazingly smooth and has great patina. Hard to find ammo though to see if it still shoots.
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    Have you confirmed that it's 45-70? These were made and copied for and by many countries, and could be .43 Spanish, etc., etc.
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    Yes it's confirmed as being 45-70 by several gun experts.
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    No offense, but did these experts actually do a chamber cast and slug the bore? There are a pile of chamberings for rolling blocks that are REALLY
    close to 45-70 dimensions. Darned near every country in the world used
    the rolling block, and each one had their own caliber.

    That's just for the Remington produced guns. I'm not all that sure that
    yours is a Remington. There are gazillions of the darned things out there
    that are authorized (licensed) and un-authorized copies. The near total
    lack of markings on yours is interesting----No manufacturer name, no
    serial number, no country crest, no proof marks?
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    Thanks for the insight. I'm not sure what they did to confirm the caliber of the rifle. It was done way before I was even born. I do remember my father telling me that it took paper cartridges. Could the lack of markings make this a really old rifle? Or maybe made by a single gunsmith, and that's why the only marking on it is FB? There is also a smaller B on the left side of the barrel near the breach. I've been told it could be a state-milita rifle also. It was found in Rochester NY.
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    Paper cartridges? No. It's a metallic cartridge carbine. Perhaps
    what you heard was related to "paper patched" ammunition.
    A strip of paper was wrapped around the bullet.


    Take another look at the top and bottom tangs (long skinny parts behind
    the hammer and trigger guard) on your gun. I mean good light magnifying
    glass LOOK. Any markings?
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    But don't scrub rust off with anything coarser than 0000 steel or bronze wool and oil.
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    These rifles were not made by individual gunsmiths as the old flintlocks were, they were mass produced. Even state milita guns were marked.:)
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