Are AR-15's accurate?

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  1. 45nut

    45nut Active Member

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    I'm about to take the plunge and I want a flat top M-4 Carbine. My question is what kind of accuracy can I expect. I don't expect 1/2" groups at 100 yards, but I'd like to get better than the 4" groups I got with my Mini-14.

    Question is this: Can those with experience rank the best to worst of the big producers. I can't afford a Colt, so exclude them please.

    I'm leaning towards the Bushmaster or Olympic.

    Any help is appreciated.
  2. Crpdeth

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    Bushmaster all the way, I wouldnt even consider an Oly

    I'll say this, comparing an AR to your Mini14 is going to be an absolute joy for you.

    I dont see any reason why you couldn't do 1" groups or better with good ammo.

    Crpdeth
  3. I concur, Donny. Bushmaster is by far the better weapon.
  4. bdfinst

    bdfinst New Member

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    Avoid Colt. They are not mil-spec.

    Bushmaster and Rock River Arms are tops. I have a BM lower with a RRA competition upper and trigger group. It shoots better than I can.
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    DWARREN123 New Member

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    Like all firearms some more so than others.
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    Anyone tried any DoubleStars for quality? I love the 1911A1 I got from them.
  7. Mark

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    Watch this thread, this is going to get dicey!

    Your original post doesn't really explain what you want to use this rifle for. With certain modifications, the AR 15 rifle is VERY accurate. Mini 14's, while fun, can't come close to the AR 15's potential.

    FWIW, Colt and FN are the ONLY tier one suppliers to the US military for complete rifles. (Army, AF, Navy, USMC)

    Colt is also the "Gold Standard" as far as reliability and quality for an out of the box rifle with no modifications. As everyone knows, they are pricey, and I don't think everyone needs a Colt for their purpose.

    I wonder if AR 15 rifles aren't the hottest thing on the market right now. It seems like everyone has a story about good and bad AR's. All current manufacturers are having trouble making enough rifles to supply demand, and quality seems to be suffering.

    45nut is going to have to sift through a lot of information from people defending their AR 15. Not all of these people are qualified to evaluate and appraise this type of rifle.
    Mark
  8. Crpdeth

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    Good post Mark

    45Nut, let me add one thing here, the mag makes the AR...If you buy a sloppy, cheap mag for your rifle, there is very little chance that it will operate smoothly.

    I may be preaching in the wrong direction here, but it is one area that is often over looked by new AR buyers.

    Keep us updated!


    Crpdeth
  9. pickenup

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    Yup, Bushy rather than the Oly.
    I've seen 5 shot groups that made a ragged hole.
    Wish "I" could do that.
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    I have a RRA upper/lower with a Jewell trigger, and a Kreiger barrel, using a 6x18 mil-dot scope. The rifle will shoot dime-sized groups 8 out of 10 times at 100 yards.

    As stated earlier, accuracy is up to each shooter to qualify. My definition may differ from yours........

    "dime-sized" defined like this.....

    [​IMG]
  11. Mark

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    That's not all you have, is it Jay?

    I'd say you have a free float kit also, yes?

    Mark
  12. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    Mark,, although it was not an intentional omission, you're absolutely correct........ the barrel is free floated.
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    Crpdeth Active Member

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    ....And perhaps 1.5 - 2.5k invested in upgrades after the inital cost of the AR Jay? :D


    Crpdeth
  14. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    Nope, the whole thing cost me $1400. An FFL friend of mine ordered all the parts for me, and I just put 'em together.
  15. Mark

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    Jay, I'll believe $1400 without sights, otherwise I'm calling BS.
    Mark

    P.S. I don't want to start any kind of ruccus with you, I'm going through a build right now, and I am very tuned in to what things cost. I would also like to mention to 45nut that the accuracy you are getting is not unusual for a properly built AR. I will add very quickly that this accuracy is also the result of careful handloading, and terrific shooter technique.
    Lotsa work, eh? Nice job Jay!
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