As hard as he is to stomach...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zigzag2, Nov 10, 2003.

  1. Zigzag2

    Zigzag2 Guest

    Gore makes a damn good point...

    WASHINGTON (Nov. 10) - Former Vice President Al Gore says the Bush White House is using the Sept. 11 terror attacks to justify a major offensive against the freedoms and liberties Americans have enjoyed for centuries.''They have taken us much farther down the road toward an intrusive, 'big brother'-style government - toward the dangers prophesied by George Orwell in his book '1984' - than anyone ever thought would be possible in the United States of America,'' Gore charged in a speech.

    Gore, who lost the disputed 2000 presidential election to President Bush, brought many in the crowd of 3,000 to their feet Sunday when he called for a repeal of the Patriot Act, which expanded government's surveillance and detention power, allowing authorities to monitor the books citizens read and conduct secret searches.

    He said terrorism-fighting tools granted after Sept. 11, 2001, amount to a partisan power grab that has led to the erosion of the civil liberties of all Americans.

    Gore chided the administration for what he said was its ''implicit assumption'' that Americans must give up traditional freedoms in order to be safe from terrorists.

    ''In my opinion, it makes no more sense to launch an assault on our civil liberties as the best way to get at terrorists than it did to launch an invasion of Iraq as the best way to get at Osama bin Laden,'' Gore said.

    In both cases, Gore said, the administration has ''recklessly put our country in grave and unnecessary danger.''

    He also said the administration still has ''no serious strategy'' for domestic security - charging that there aren't sufficient protections in place for ports, nuclear facilities, chemical plants and other key infrastructure.

    His speech was sponsored by the liberal activist group Moveon.org, which earlier this year held an online presidential primary in which Howard Dean finished first.

    The second sponsor, the American Constitution Society, is a national organization of law students, professors, lawyers and others that says it seeks to counter what it characterizes as the dominant, narrow conservative vision of American law today.

    The Patriot Act was passed overwhelmingly by Congress, but has been under attack by liberals and many conservatives who say the law intrudes too much into Americans' lives in the name of fighting terror.

    Democrats have been trying to build support in the Senate to rolling back portions of the law and some Republicans say it needs to be changed.

    ''The Patriot Act crossed the line on several key areas of civil liberties,'' Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee said last month.

    Changes must be made to the law if it is to be renewed in 2005, agreed GOP Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho, another member of the Judiciary Committee.
  2. Shizamus

    Shizamus New Member

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    It might be a good point but,

    This is the whore that invented the Internet !

    This is the same maneure mouth that wanted

    to do away with the Internal Combustion Engine !

    Talk is cheap and this is what this is cheap talk

    and pickle smoke for the rest of the morons

    in this country !

    Al Sharpton for president anyone ?

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  3. Zigzag2

    Zigzag2 Guest

    the only point is, Bush has got us in a real mess!

    and that ain't [​IMG]
  4. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

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    Pickle smoke?? Whazzat?

    I never thought I would agree with Gore on anything, but he's saying what I've been saying on this issue.

    *looks out the window for flying pigs*
  5. ibtrukn

    ibtrukn New Member

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    typical leftist liberal polispeak. Blame everything and anything on
    whover.
    Zig ol boy, how does he propose to "fix" things? Whats that you say, he does not ofer a fix? Imagine that.
    Typical damocrap drivel.
    Shiz, U B gettin better!! Howd U get ma pitcher wi' ma fav adult beverage?? :cool:
  6. gamachinist

    gamachinist New Member

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    Who should know better how to enslave We the people than one of the current crop of leftists?
    I don't like the Patriot Act,it scares me as much as a continuation of the Clinton Regine does.
    Robert.
  7. Zigzag2

    Zigzag2 Guest

    Yo IB, at least there's acknowledgment of the problem. :D

    That's the 1st step to a solution.

    Ain't hearin' it from the Bush camp. :confused:


    hehehe ;)
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