Assault weapons

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  1. Gabob

    Gabob Well-Known Member

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    Assault rifles from the past
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    US Model 1871 50-70 Springfield Rolling Block
    Trapdoor 45-70 with rare triangular bayonet
    30-40 Krag full length rifle
    30-40 Krag Carbine cut down from full length ?

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  2. catfish83861

    catfish83861 Active Member

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    Beautiful pictures of these dangerous Assault Weapons;). Thanks for posting them,even if it does scare me just looking at these evil things;) :D catfish
  3. We should add one more to the picture, Gabob:

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    A-SALT-WEAPON.

    :D;):p
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    catfish83861 Active Member

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    Well that could be more fact than fiction, have you ever had salt in your eyes? Makes fighting real difficult.:eek: Smarty pants
  5. Yup, that I have Cat, and you're right, it hurts! My granddad used to tell stories of when he was a kid stealing watermelons out of some farmer's field . . . and getting hit in the butt with a rock salt charge from a the farmer's shotgun. :D
  6. Gabob

    Gabob Well-Known Member

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    I have one much older assault weapon that I will post when I have more time
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    My grandfather had an interresting thing for stray dogs that hung arround the farm. He had a stick with a rag wrapped arround the end of it and it was soaked in a pail of Turpentine? i think.... I seen it happen one time...he grabed the dogs tail and gave that dog a good poke and wipe with that stick and that dog was dragging his behind over the gravel road like there was no tomorrow....
    Stray dog problem solved. :rolleyes:

    Nice rifles GaBob !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  8. BobMcG

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    Nice!

    I just happen to have a few of the older ones kicking around myself.

    Here's a couple:
    .45 Government Springfield model 1884 carbine manufactured in the last quarter of 1889 and went to the 10th cavalry unit. With an original cleaning kit in the stock.
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    .30 ARMY Winchester 1895 carbine manufactured in 1914. This one obviously didn't make the run up San Juan Hill but others before it did. ;)

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    And yes, the cartridge carrier is on the 1895 'cause I use it in the woods:)

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  9. BobMcG

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    A couple more.

    .30 ARMY 1899 Springfield carbine. With an original cleaning kit in the stock.
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    .75 caliber 1763 2nd model Brown Bess (Pedersoli reproduction) .
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  10. Gabob

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    US model 1816 Contract Musket by M.T. Wickham circa 1821
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    Gabob you have some beautiful rifles . thanks for showing
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    Gabob,
    Gotta love that 1816! Is it still a shooter?
  13. Gabob

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    I have never fired the 1816 but it is in good enough condition to be fired.
    All the others I have fired.
    The cut down Krag carbine got a cracked stock years ago when my horse got into a yellow jacket nest and I was thrown. My uncle did such a neat repair that it is almost invisible.
    That brings on a story for another post
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    Bob,

    I have an all original 1899 Krag Carbine in the safe............starting value at auction between $3500 and $4000 I'm told.........

    I'll dig it out soon and post photos!
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    Charlie
    The long Krag was given to me several years ago by a distant cousin who was 100 years old. Her son was my shooting buddy until his death. She called and asked me to come to her house. Gave me the Krag and as we were talking she said I could also have the gun propped in the corner.
    It is a Browning 16 Ga that belonged to her father who died in 1940. The chamber was originally 2 5/8 but apparently had been sent back to factory as the original markings are stamped out and 2 3/4 " stamped on it. This shotgun is in better than 90% condition.
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    Nice collection...I love the 1895's
  17. BobMcG

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    Sweet!
    I just love carbines... of all kinds. :)

    My 1899 carbine is also an original I picked up years ago. I've enjoyed seeing it's value increase very nicely. :D
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    Me too! :D

    I have another in the safe for which I was able to get the Winchester Letter on it. Turns out that it's one of the first .405WCF rifles made.

    Although the .405 was introduced to the the public for the first time exclusively in the model 1895 and in the year 1904, (I also have a collection of the original ads for the .405 dating from 1904 to 1911:)) the order for my .405 was received in the warehouse on Aug. 13, 1903, had the features requested added and was shipped from the warehouse on Sept. 19, 1903. How cool is that? :cool::D I looked for years for an old .405 before coming across this one and I'm always looking for another.;)
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    My assault rifles of yesteryear.
    Sharps mod 1863 in 50-70 Govt

    Mossberg mod 1944 in .22

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    You know, seriously now, this is one argument I have made, and I think we all have to keep repeating until it get's traction, that this is the ESSENCE of the 2nd Amendment, based strictly on the weapons at the TIME they wrote it!

    The preferred HUNTING weapons of the time, were either fowlers, or small bore rifles. NOTHING in the 2nd says ANYTHING about "hunting...."

    But the Predominant MILITARY small arm of the day, was the Smoothbore large bore MUSKET.

    WHY? It could be reloaded MUCH faster than any fowler or rifle, with paper cartridges, giving a much higher initial, and sustained rate of fire. With "Buck and Ball" it was even more effective, as we used it in the Revolution... PLUS it mounted a bayonet! Hence, it WAS the "Assault Weapon" of the day!

    The very usage of the word "Militia" means we get to OWN, and the Government shall not take away, the "Predominant Military Small Arm of the Day!"

    In fact, the later Militia Acts specifically SAID the weapon that each member of the Militia MUST own is their OWN "Musket, Cartridge box and Bayonet!" There are written accounts of the "Sorry state of affairs" in some militias, where most of the men show up with Squirrel RIFLES and not the prescribed by law MUSKETS...hence they were "Not well regulated....!"


    The whole IDEA of the militia is it trains and is proficient with it's OWN small arms, and when necessary, rallies around "magazines" where it will get powder and shot, and pick up the SUPPORT WEAPONS (I.e., cannons!) that are stored there, and the professional soldiers who are trained with them!

    So there it is...WHY we have the "National Guard" and the armories interspersed though out all our small towns, in the INTERIOR....WE are the militia, and should be TRAINED through our daily practice with our OWN "Assault weapons," and we go THERE to augment the "professionals, who man "our" "support weapons," be it armor, missiles, aircraft, crew served weapons...to help US defend against enemies "Foreign or Domestic...."


    Thus, if the Militia Acts of 1795 were written TODAY every able bodied man would by LAW have to own an M4, or at least an M16...
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