Bad news for the FN 57 Handgun!

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by Rugster, Jan 13, 2005.

  1. Rugster

    Rugster New Member

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    I was watching TV and fileing a report yesterday when something grabbed my attention.I heard one of the NBC stations up north or out west(We have both East and West NBS,ABC,CBS and Fox)Im pretty sure this was California.The news anchor man stated to watch news channel # for information on a Armor pierceing Handgun that the public could easily obtain and something had to be done about it.I had to hear this so I watched,the Chief of Police had a FN 57 Handgun.He hung up a bullet resistant vest and shot it at 25 ft.Well it did penetrate the Kevlar(Which rarely Ive seen a 9MM do).Now they had a lady their to tell the public what this gun could do in the hands of a terrorist and was asking people to join her alliance against this gun,and even had a address displayed where you could donate money to help get this terrible weapon out of the hands of Americans.She was given a big pat on her back from the news anchor man for her efforts on getting this gun out of circulation.It was stated no one outside of LE and Military purposes did this gun fit in.I hate it when Police Chiefs chime in and speak for all of their Officers.So a new battle begins.
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    I wonder what kind of bullet they were using.

    The battle......continues......
  3. Bigtire

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    It was just a matter of time. I'd have like to stood next to him and fired a Thompson Contender in 30-06 and blown a fist sized hole in the vest just to get their reactions. :D

    Heck, I'll bet a 7.62x25 would have penetrated the vest too.
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  4. MVP

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    Or if it was an up to date vest?
  5. richbug

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    with standard ball ammo the 5.7 will poke through 48 layers of Kevlar. I am pretty sure a 3A vest is only 20. The local shop had one on the shelf for $800 with 3 20 round mags.... but ammo is pricey.
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    Also the gun looks and feels like a toy. Less than 2 pounds loaded, largely plastic, feels more like tupperware than glock. Uses a roller locking system similar to a CZ-52 I think.
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    I was under the imprerssion that the FN FiveSeven was only available to law enforcement or military for that reason(the ability to penetrate kevlar).
    What changed that they offer it to the public now?
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    That was FN's policy, but I think it applied to AP ammo. He couldn't get AP ammo unless it was for LEO's. To top it off the ball ammo has hollow point tips, much like a match HP bullet. I expect that they would still blow up nicely after those 20 layers of kevlar.
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    I better buy one before they get banned and the price goes the way of the Steyr AUG did :rolleyes: ;)
  10. geezler

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    If i were FN i would have my attorneys file suit against all involved.
  11. Rugster

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    MVP,you are probably right about the price going up on the Handguns,but believe me they are already priced out of reason.Plus the ammo is in short supply as of now and its also extremely expensive.






    Best!!
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    It has been my understanding that the ATF bans pistol ammo that can penetrate the typical vest. That's what happened to all that cheap imported 7.62X39 ammo back in the late 1980s. Some outfit made a prototype handgun in that caliber and the ATF banned the sale of the ammo. Fine when there were only rifles but when they made a pistol the feds banned it.

    Same story with the PMC tubular ammo. Pulled because it sliced through a vest.

    If the 5.7FN ammo will punch a vest, I would think the ATF would ban the ammo (not the gun, just the ammo).

    Now, having said that, it is a poorly kept secret that 130 hardball from the .38 Super will defeat a vest. I have not tried it but a friend who used to sell guns and police equipment assured me that the Super will penetrate the typical vest. He said he demonstrated this fact to a vest salesman one day on his indoor range when the rep insisted that his product would stop ANY handgun caliber.

    If this is true I don't know why hardball ammo for the .38 Super hasn't been banned for civilian sales.
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    I wondered what ever happened to the PMC Tubular Type ammo. I used to get that stuff in the early nineties for my 44spl and loved it because it was by far the most accurate through my handgun.
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    Most vests can be penetrated with an arrow from a compound bow, are they going to outlaw bows now as well!
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    Well, when are they going to ban the Tokarev? The 7.62x25 will go through even the trauma plate on a Level III vest. I just love it when the "fair and impartial" media decide to help further the anti-gun agenda of the liberals by conducting some more brainwashing of the sheeple:rolleyes:
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  17. gdmoody

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    They can have my 5.7X28 when they pry it from..... oh you know the saying.

    I tested several different rounds a few years ago on a bullet proof vest and trauma plate. The 7.62 X 25 went right through it without any problem along with the 30 carbine. It did stop .40, .45, and 9mm. My son, the cop, said "I hope the bad guys don't find out about these guns" talking about the CZ 52.

    MVP, they have been offered to the public for at least a year, because that is about when I bought mine.

    They might not be able to pry the FiveseveN, but I will sell it for - -ah - - let's say - - - - $4000, and you can have my PS 90 for S10K .:D:D
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    I wonder if I could get one for "work." :D
  20. LurpyGeek

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    Another facet of the story is that it is a bullet resistant vest. People have the misconception in their minds that what is commonly called a bullet proof vest will stop all bullets. Thus anything that is outside of that "rule" must be a horrible and evil weapon. There is no such thing as a true bullet proof vest.
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