"Best Cheap Self Defense Handgun Available"

Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by Guest, Feb 23, 2003.

  1. IBFrank

    IBFrank New Member

    May 7, 2006
    So. Ohio
    The Makarov. Safety; up is safe, down is shoot. On safe means it can't be cocked, slide can't be racked, trigger can't be pulled, firing pin is blocked. When off safe; firing pin still blocked until trigger is fully pulled to fire (safe to carry with cartridge in chamber and safety off!--uncocked and UNlocked). + it's small, easy to carry/hide, 8+1 capacity of 9X18, built like a tank, accurate enough, will ALWAYS WORK, fool proof safety, easy to tear down/clean, powerful enough, works flawlessly with hollow points or ball ammo, cheap plentiful ammo, don't cost a fortune, immune to dirt and crud, easy to shoot well, virtually idiot proof, can be made .380 with just a bbl. swap (but why?).
    I've got me convinced! Don't leave home without it. Hard to argue with that! It has SO MUCH going for it that only a diehard reader of 'GUNS' or 'AMERICAN HANDGUNNER' would not like it due to their worship of 1911s (I have one of them, but it's too big and clunky to carry comfortably.) Jeez! I've just blasphemed an American idol and made a good argument against it!
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2007
  2. obxned

    obxned New Member

    Mar 4, 2007
    .45 Hi-Point.

    Yes, I am serious. It's cheap, ugly, feels funny to my hand, but it seems to do the job. I've seen several at the range including a brand new 1 today that fired it's first 100 rounds without a problem. They seem plenty accurate too.
  3. obxned

    obxned New Member

    Mar 4, 2007
    Hi-Point .45 - and yes, I do know how ugly it is.

    NY_GUNFIGHTER New Member

    May 9, 2007
    How's about a police surplus S&W 10? 2 or 4 inch barrel, 38 Special, can use +Ps, and can be had for >$150. By me the guns hops are full of em
  5. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    I got NO problems with the idea; It's ecologically sound (you are re-cycling), Economically sound (they are relatively cheap, and totally depreciated), and logically sound (Millions of cops bet their ass on them, and their reliable function, for many years!).
    Cop 'turn in's' are a source we need to look at,more often, as they sell cheaply, being high wear, low use weapons (carried daily, seldom shot) maintained to high standards by trained personel (Police armorers).
    They used to be even cheaper; my $90, 4", S&W M-10 Heavy Barrel, has, with a bit of effort, a trigger that feels, double action, like squeezing thru an over ripe bannana, at about six pounds, yet is 100% reliable.
    Would I 'stake my bacon' on it? Hell yes, would and have,
    Understand, I am a 1911 kinda guy, and WTSHTF, hope to have a couple, near at hand, and not withstanding my affinity for Smith coil spring J frames, in 3" lengths, still must allow that the K-Frame Smith is likely the most reliable platform, given the variety of users, on earth.
    A moron can use it, with little instruction; one must line up the sights, and pull.
    If and when, my backside is in a bind, and I need some real help, right now, I hope my 'guardian Angel ' is so armed, his gun, or mine,
    to cover my six!
    A fine choice!
  6. stetson

    stetson New Member

    Sep 19, 2005
    The Russian Mak is a great little pistol for the money and the Bugarian JR is less
    cash and still worth every penny !Again Iwould NEVER TRUST my life with a high point !
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