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  1. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    In Genesis, who was the first man and woman made?
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    Adam and Eve

    2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
    2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
    2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
    2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
    2:11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
    2:12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
    2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
    2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
    2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
    2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
    2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
    2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help mate.
    2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
    2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
    2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
    2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
    2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
    2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
    2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
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  3. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Nope.
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    and your answer be ?
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    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Give me a moment. I type slow.
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    The first man and woman were made on the sixth day, Gen: 1 26-31. Here we see that God made all of mankind, and it was a date before Adam, the sixth day to be exact. He spoke with us, every one of us way before Adam came along.

    Ephesians 1: 4-5 tells us that we were made before the foundation of the world, directly from Paul's mouth. Also, Eph: 1-4-5 shares with us that we were predestined and Genesis 1 26-31 shows us that we did have a message from God before Adam was formed.

    So now we go to Gen 2-7. This is when God formed Adam but we know that from Gen 1: 4-5 that Adam, along with ALL mankind was already created.

    So, on the sixth day God created all mankind. On the 7th, He formed Adam.

    If we disagree on this, it does not mean we are not saved. It's just a unique fact on the Bible that many miss. Also, if you don't agree, pray about it and read over it and you will see. It's right there in Gods own words.
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    i think it shows there are two sides to us a spiritual side that was created on the sixth day and then the body , Adam is the Spirit of man or of God ? is the flesh of man or of God

    then we decide from these if man was there on the 6th day or mankind which to me is the souls of all ( more spirit than flesh)

    but thats me ..
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    I agree 100%, however, Gen 1: 4-5 does not divide us from spirit or flesh, it says mankind. So I believe that we were fully created as individuals before we were put into flesh here. A fleshly state up there: no way. But, we were the same spiritually up there as we are down here. It's just that we have this fleshy body and a sinful nature. I just wanted to hear what others per-sieved from this and your perception Jack is truly appreciated.

    Thanks
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    The Ephesians passage you mentioned:

    Ephesians 1:4-5 (KJV);
    4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
    5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

    This speaks of our being chosen, not created. It addresses the fact that God is omniscient, knowing all things, and having a perfect vision of the future.

    The two accounts of the creation of Man in Genesis are not speaking of two separate creations, but merely giving more details concerning the one creation. It is very common, especially in Hebrew, to give an account of something, then to go back and give some parts of that account in more detail.
    For instance:

    Genesis 4:25 (KJV):
    25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

    Then Seth bore Enos in the next verse, then in the next chapter:
    Genesis 5:3 (KJV):
    3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

    This is the second account of the same event, the birth of Seth, and is not the birth of a second Seth. In the same way, there are two accounts given of the creation of man, but they both speak of the same single event of that creation.

    There are many other references to Adam being the first man, such as:
    1 Corinthians 15:45 (KJV);
    45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    Now, the exact meaning of the last Adam is another topic, but the simple fact is the first man is identified as Adam.
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    and the name of the first tax collector ?
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    Is it *@# &@#)??
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    Jehoiakim?
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    +1 Correct.

    Adam was created to make the bloodline that would eventually bring Christ.
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    Then why did Paul call Adam the first man?
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