BRAND NEW to muzzleloading. HELP!!!!!

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  1. Frnc4891

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    I traded a pistol for all this stuff. Hasn't been shot in 15 years. Can anyone shed some light on the quality of this stuff? Is all the stuff that i have still reliable? Safe? T/C hawkin .45 and a plainsman rifle .50.

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    a bit neglected but not too bad , but will need a expert inspection ,

    looks a complete setup

    $200 each for the rifles easy and $150 for the extra's easy too


    $500-$600 worth there if it all checks out ok ..
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    :yeahthat: And them toes in the first pic could use a pedicure :D. Seriously, have them checked out by a gunsmith. BP can do some damage if not cleaned.
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    couple more pics

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    that ones in better cond. and more kit !!!

    heck of a pistol you musta traded eh
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    i traded a p11 kel tec 9mm. nothing special
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    $250-$350 yeah? ( my us price guide is old and not complete)

    bargain deal ..
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    if those rifles clean up like i hope you may be able to trade one for another p11
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    you got $7-800 new price in return easy total i seen

    great deal

    those are OK shooters when looked after
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    do you think i have to worry about the powder or bullets being old
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    bullets ( projectiles ) as a rule dont age , they can oxidize some or get dents that dont make em great to use .. if smooth clean of oxides ( and turps will remove most ) and not dented or squashed go for it do check the sizes eh ..

    powder thats a granule type powder there , so it will be good as long as its not broken down into dust , if its still a nice small granule use it

    the dust , toss and burn somewhere safe


    dust comes from it being shaken too much and broken apart or it getting moist and then redrying and falling apart

    dust has a unpredictable burn rate and you should never use it , though some folks do use it for flinters as pan powder
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    What is a max range?
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    about 400 for both with practice

    practical 100-200
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    Any advice on a good load to start with? Also, any idea what kind of drop is get at say 200 yards?
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    The recommended starting load is the caliber. 45 caliber rifle - 45 grains. 50 caliber rifle - 50 grains. etc. Then you work up to what you like.

    For my 50 caliber Renegade, with a round ball, my hunting load is 90 grains of 2F, and my target load is 45 grains. Just to give you an example.
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    You've got some stuff there that don't belong. 4th picture. The 440 round ball is for a 45 rifle. The 490 round ball is for a 50 rifle. But the 454 round ball is for a 44 revolver. It's too big for your 45 and too small for your 50.
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    I think one of the powders is for a pistol too. Can I use the pistol powder in the rifles?
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    Yeah, Pyrodex RS is Rifle and Shotgun. Equivalent to FF. Pyrodex P is Pistol. Equivalent to FFF. You could use it for the 45. I don't know as I'd use it in the 50.
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    Is there a shotgun load for muzzleloaders?
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