Brass moochers

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  1. RogerWilco99

    RogerWilco99 New Member

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    I went to the gun range on Saturday and fired a bunch of different calibers of stuff. I always clean up my lane area before I shoot and police it afterward to account for all my brass.

    Upon getting ready to leave, I found that I did not have any 45LC brass. Even though I had fired over 200 rounds of it. It was then I noticed a guy going around the range picking up brass and throwing back some of it back and putting the rest in a canvas bag. I suspected him of taking my brass.

    So, I asked him about it and he got very abusive while stating he could keep what he "foiund". I told him that until I left, all my fired brass was mine and he couldn't have it. If he had it I wanted it back and that I would complain to the range owner who is a friend.

    He asked me what I was looking for. I told him it was the 45LC brass. And he said that good brass can bring a good price online that I should pay him for it. He opened his canvas bag which was full of various pistol caliber brass. So, I went to get the manager who told the guy that he did not allow people to take any brass but from their own lane.

    When he asked the guy what he was shooting and on which lane, the guy admitted he hadn't been shooting at all. The manager dumped out the guy's bag on the counter, gave him his bag and told him not to come back. I picked out my 45LC brass from the mountain of brass there and left with my other stuff.

    I'm wondering if this stealing of brass is going to become more common with the current scarcity of components and prices going up.

    I'm really bothered by the almost complete unavailability of primers. But this guy was there just to steal brass to sell online. Has anyone else ever seen that?

    I sometimes pickup "strange" brass when I police my lane before shooting. But there's less and less to pickup these days, too. Especially in rifle lanes.
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  2. Oneida Steve

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    Brass has become near-and-dear to some shooters, but I've yet to see someone picking it up before the shooter left the range.

    Just curious - what gun were you shooting, that the .45 Colt brass was ending up on the ground?
  3. Alpo

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    >And he said that good brass can bring a good price online that I should pay him for it.<

    Shoulda told him, "Absolutely. New brass is 15 dollars a box, you stole 4 boxes from me, that's 60 dollars. I'm calling the cops and getting your butt locked up."

    'Tis amazing how some folks don't consider it stealin'.
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    Don't know about him, but when I shoot my Rossi 92, 45 Colt brass ends up on the ground.
  5. techoca

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    I'm just wondering if the idiot didn't notice you had a 45 colt on your person?
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    actually new is more like 18 a box:mad:
  7. 308 at my gate

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    I was at the range last Saturday also and noticed a guy there with a bucket just helping himself to what ever he could find. Since I was not allowing anything to hit the ground I did not say anything. But if I was shooting something that was ejecting brass to the ground there would have been words.
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    Words hell!!! There would have been a size 13 boot from a 325 pound man crammed up his hind quarters, And thats only if my gun were empty:mad:. I always ask before picking anything up as I expect the same amount of consideration from others.
  9. RogerWilco99

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    I was shooting a Marlin 1894 chambered in 45 long colt. When the brass ejects it goes right over my right shoulder onto the ground.

    I was wearing a (loaded) Sig P228 as a sidearm with a Sig P226 15 round clip in it. I think he noticed or might have tried something "stupid".

    I kind of expected the range master/manager to call the cops. But he recovered what the guy stole (typically abandoned brass belongs to the range) so I guess he figured throwing him out was enough.

    From what I've seen, you can't buy 45LC brass right now. Nobody except folks on auction sites seem to have any to sell (and that's all once-fired).

    I just realized that there were probably several cops there already. I know several who frequent that range (state and local). One of them might have arrested him if they had caught him at it.

    Cheers,
    Bruce
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  10. mark9765

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    I pulled up to a local public range last week (25 yd to birm and spaces for 20 shooters). I noticed a man and wife at one end picking up brass. There was one other person shooting to the left of me. After I got set up I noticed the guy picking up brass had gone down range digging in the birm for lead. No notice to the shooters just walked down range. I packed up and moved to the 50yd range so I wouldn't be witness to an accident if something bounced wrong. The other shooter move also, thank goodness. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!
  11. Big ugly

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    Same here, Hell I even bring home my rimfire ammo. And I agree with the feller with the size 13 boot. I am the same weight but I got a bigger foot and being 6'2 means I some reach with my foot. I dont tolerate people mouthing off to me and it is just stupid to do it at the range. I carry an airsoft gun just for the grins of it and I would be to inclined to use it.
  12. Alpo

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    Don't know how it works in Tennessee, but here in Florida, that is called "Aggravated Assault" if you point it at me, and "Assault with Intent" if you shoot me. Not to mention the fact that if I shoot you it was self defense ("How was I supposed to know it was a toy? He pointed a gun at me").

    That doesn't sound like a really good plan, to me.
  13. copenhagen

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    The wonders of living in the middle of nowhere USA... My brass gets stolen by squirrels only.
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    AAHHH!!! Life in a rural area. My missed brass gets picket up by the lawn mower.
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    I gotta agree with Alpo on that matter Big Ugly, I myself wear my .44 mag or my .45 LC to the range. They are my favorite 'open-carry' weapons. But Id be much more willing to cram my boot up the arse of an unarmed man, rather than risk a bogus charge from our very liberal system. Dont want to aggravateldly assault someone, would rather have just a plain ol' assault charge for whippin his thievin behind. Believe me Id make the assault charge worth the trouble;)
  16. TheGunClinger

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    At our local public range you gotta be quick to retrieve your brass or the range officers will sweep it up in a heartbeat. I think they have deals with some local reloaders for the brass. You have to stop firing to tell them that I keep my brass thank you very much. When I fire the Desert Eagle .50 AE I have a brass spotter to retrieve it before the gallery scarfs it up for a souveniour(sp?) Also if I want brass I will always ask the shooter if he/she saves their brass before I touch it. Dont think I would get into a fight over it though.
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    Yes I hear ya. I have 40 acres in Wyoming so my day will be here soon enough.
  18. RogerWilco99

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    I don't have to worry about moochers down at my farm but it's a three hour drive. So I don't get down there but once every month or two.

    Sometimes I have to deal with picking up my brass out of "wet" sand that sticks to it. I've even had some fly all the way into the pond behind me. (BANG -- splash). I get my nephews to fish those out (25 cents each). That SR25 flings that 308 brass pretty hard.
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    Luckily, we don't have many problems with brass moochers where I shoot. In fact there are quite a few guys who don't reload and will give away or throw away their empties. I was given 4 boxes of empty .25-06 brass last pre-deerseason from a guy after helping him get his new rifle sighted in (he didn't have a spotter or tools and was fighting with loose mounts from one of those "package" rifles).

    For you guys that shoot at outdoor ranges, I've got a little trick that has helped me keep my autoloader brass from flying all over the place. Might work on indoor ranges too...I don't have any indoor ranges in the area that I use.
    I've got an old landing net that the netting was worn out on. I sewed an old pillowcase onto the frame and added a tent stake to the handle to make my own brass catcher. Stuck it into the ground a couple feet right of the ejection port and it'll catch most of the brass. Lots easier than picking it up out of the sand and there's no question that I'm saving my brass either.

    At my local free community outdoor range, there are quite a few slobs that don't bother to police up their brass (especially rimfire & berdan military stuff) or their old targets, so I usually donate at least a half hour picking up garbage and fixing backstops during an outing. Besides, it's a good way to unwind after a long night at work...the range is almost always deserted in the morning so I can shoot and clean in peace.
    This range has actually been closed up a couple times by the landowner and the sportsman club that maintains it because of those idiots that come out and trash the place. The sad thing is that it's gotten much worse since the local LEO range was closed down due to new housing in the area where it was at so now they're using the community range...not very many of them bother to clean up after themselves. :(
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  20. gdmoody

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    The range I belong to has an incentive program to help keep the place clean. If you do cleaning for six hours a year, you get a $ amount knocked off the price of a yearly membership. If you spend just a half hour of cleaning at every range visit, six hours comes very quickly.
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