Breda 1927

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  1. joncutt87

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    I purchased a Breda 1927 as an estate sale, I don't know much about it except that it is nickel plated and has a rotary magazine. I will try to geta serial number and pictures tomorrow
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    The rifle is made by Société Anonyme ERNESTO BREDA of Brescia (Italy) in 1927, for export. Caliber probably is rimless 6.5 x 54 mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer, but may be 8 x 50R Austrian Mannlicher. Either way, the rifle is a variant of Mannlicher-Schoenauer model 1903. The action of th M-S is easy to identify by it's magazine with a rotating feeder.

    I'm not sure if the company is in business still or not; They had a few other military rifles between 1927 - 1940 and they were still making shotguns primarily into the mid 1990's.

    Hope that helps you some. Is the wood cut? The stocks were sometimes cut to fit into duffel bags.
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    woolley, the stock isn't cut, but there is a chip right behind the bolt. The barrel and receiver are stamped A8303, and the bolt is stamped 6726B. All three are marked with the St. George stamp. However, it doesn't have any sights.
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    Breda 1927, what the heck is it?

    The rifle is made by Société Anonyme ERNESTO BREDA of Brescia (Italy) in 1927, for export. Caliber is definitely not 7.62 x 54R but if the case is rimmed it may be 8 x 50R Austrian Mannlicher, used also in Greece. If so, the rifle (or carbine?) is a variant of Mannlicher-Schoenauer model 1903, caliber usually rimless 6.5 x 54 mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer, but some Greek units (cavalry?) had the 8 x 50R shoulder arms too. Action of M-S is easy to identify by it's magazine with a rotating feeder. Missing bolt parts may be difficult to find today, if Breda manufacture has not those spare parts in it's stock. This Italian firearms plant is still alive, but it is today known mainly as a manufacturer of shotguns. Before active search of needed bolt parts you must find out caliber of your rifle or carbine.


    PS. Classes of service shoulder arms are:

    Carbine...............barrel length 22 inches or less
    Short rifle...........barrel length 23 to 25 inches
    Rifle.................barrel length 26 inches or more

    Example given: German Mauser rifle Model 98k is not a "Karabiner" but a short rifle. Letter "k" means "kurz" = short. Designation "K98k" is sometimes seen, but it is incorrect. Designation "K98" is correct, meaning a Karabiner, with barrel length less than 60 centimeters. Note the capitel "K" before model marking. A short Mauser rifle 98k has a barrel length 61 cm (24 inches). Note the letter "k". Substantives of German are written with capitels, while adjectives with "small" letters.

    From Rifles of the World By John Walter

    these scans

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    so 100,000 rifles made 10,000 carbines swiss version design (styer) made in italy out of swiss parts in the beginning until the Italians got ramped up and made their own
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    i do have a short rifle, unfortunately i do not have the barrel band or the upper barrel shroud the holds the rear sight. thanks for all the help jack.
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    somewhere i read a refence to greek marines version they where carbines and had no shroud to allow access to prevent rust but suss this page out for now and i'll find the reference for the "sans Shroud" version

    http://www.hungariae.com/Mann03.htm
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    that looks pretty close, I have some pictures but i'm having trouble uploading them
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    Jack, you are awesome.
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