Burgess rifle, anyone seen one?

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  1. Shrapnel

    Shrapnel New Member

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    I just received my Burgess rifle with 2 barrels in 44-40. I had never seen or heard of such a gun until I found it on an internet auction. It is a 2 barreld set in very good condition, and I would like to know more about these rare guns. It does function as it should, has a bright bore and shoots quite well. Anybody have any information????

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  2. grampawmike

    grampawmike New Member

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    Well, the calendar says I'm about to hit 70 yrs of age and I've never seen such a neat piece of machinery in my life. I LIKE IT!!!!
  3. muddober

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    I have never seen one, it is very cool and thanks for sharing.

    Ron
  4. Contenderizer

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    Andrew Burgess was one of the most prolific gun designers of the 1800's. The Burgess Gun Co., formed 1892 in Buffalo, NY, manufactured slide action shotguns and rifles which were operated by their pistol grip, as you show in your last photo.

    Another interesting piece he made was a folding shotgun (hinged) so that the barrel would fold against the buttstock. Burgess sold his company to Winchester in 1899. Other gun makers manufactured some of his designs under license, including Whitney Arms, who manufactured a lever action rifle, and Colt, who also manufactured a lever action rifle (1883-1885) in an attempt to compete with Winchester.

    Your gun, with two interchangeable barrels, is a dandy and probably rather rare. You didn't say what you paid for it, but I'm guessing its worth $4-5 grand, perhaps more. Which auction site had this fine piece listed?
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  5. Jim K

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    I have seen one shotgun, but have never seen a rifle. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and the pictures.

    Jim
  6. Shrapnel

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    I got it from Greg Martin Auctions and it was way beyond $5,000.00.

    It does shoot well, had it out today shooting gophers...nothing but head shots...

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  7. Contenderizer

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    Shrapnel,

    While Burgess rifles with a single barrel are the standard fare (still scarce, however), yours is such a rare and unusual piece that value is impossible to determine until the hammer drops. What ever the cost, you seem happy with the purchase and that's the true measure of value. You really got my juices flowing when you made your post. Good luck with it.
  8. Jim K

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    I just love those casual statements like "I was out shooting gophers with my Burgess rifle...." Wow!

    Sort of like, "I had my original Paterson at the range the other day...."

    Jim
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    ^^^ :)

    "If you know of a man who only has one rifle, he's probably pretty good with it..." :D
  10. Shrapnel

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    As I researched the Burgess rifle I was able to come up with a Burgess shotgun, made the same way as the rifle. It is still able to take grouse. This has a Damascus barrel with a solid rib, a rare feature on a scarce gun...What is next?

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  11. Contenderizer

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    What's next? With you who knows. All I know for sure is that you are killing me with these great finds! Keep up the great work.

    Assume its 12 Ga. Are you reloading shells for use with the Damascus barrel?

    PS - If you don't have any kids, let me know so I can send you my name and address to be included in your Last Will and Testament. :D
  12. armedandsafe

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    Shrapnel, you owe me a new keyboard. The drool shorted out mine. :D

    Pops
  13. Shrapnel

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    I am actually using smokeless 2 5/8 inch subsonic loads. There is hardly any recoil, works nicely.
  14. opoefc

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    Some years ago, Elmer Burgess, grandson of Andrew Burgess the Inventor, used to put on shooting exhibitions at So. Calif. gun clubs with various Byurgess firearms. A search of gun magazines of the 50s & 60s will come up with articles on Elmer and his firearms. A good friend of mine, the late Alan Comstock was married to a Burgess descendant, and collected Burgess firearms. He had a large collection of various rifles & shotguns and we often shot them. It takes a few minutes to get used to the odd method of firing these, with the backwards sliding trigger guard action, if you are used to the more common slide action pump shotguns like Winchesters & Remingtons, but once you have tried it , it becomes second nature. Andrew Burgess was a facinating inventor and individual. Many of the Civil war photographs attributed to Brady were actually taken by Burgess. Ed.
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    If anyone is interested.... there is a Burgess coming up for auction a week from Saturday.

    Check out Morphy Auction, Dec. 18th, lot 212

    Burgess Gun Company Slide Action Shotgun.**
    Description Serial # 2942. Cal/GA: 12 gage. Manufacture date: Circa 1892 to 1899. Barrel length: 28 inches. Chamber length: 2 - 1/2 inches. Choke dimension: F. Damascus barrel and receiver turning nice brown patina. Unique slide action works smoothly. Finely checkered wood shows nice grain. Originality: 100%.
    Condition (Good).
    Estimate: 1,000.00 - 2,000.00


    Cheers from BullShoot
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