Can a 1911 design last as long as a Sig P220?

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by glocknut, Dec 24, 2003.

  1. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    The P220 is a pretty good design to say the least.

    Would the 1911 design in 45 run as many round through and stand up as 20,000 rounds? I know the glock will.....

    And-- what manufacturers make a good product?

    I know of:
    springfield arm..
    Charles Daley...bad?
    I won't own a colt again....POS!! In fact i have never had good luck with a colt...pistol or rifle....

    what else is out there?

    Oh, and Please don't move this to the 1911 know what they will say....i want an honest opinion.

  2. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    Well, as a design, the M1911 has lasted over a hundred years, so John M. Browning must've done something right.

    It's the most copied design in firearms history.

    The M1911 has done it's job from the deserts of Africa, to the tundra of the Aleutians. From the jungles of Guadalcanal to the frozen Chosin Reservoir.

    From Belleau Wood to Bien Hoa, the 1911 has been I'd say it's a pretty sound design.

    My Pin gun from the early '70's has well over 20,000 rounds thru it (and probably about triple that)....and is still going strong.

    Good manufacturers? Kimber, Springfield, Wilson, Baer, Rock River, Ed Brown, Dan Wesson.

  3. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    Here at TFF
    Kimber and Springfield make excellent 1911's.

    Keep the weapon clean and oiled . Change the recoil spring every 5000 rounds and a 1911 will last forever.

    I won't use the G word, as to keep an honest opinion. :D
  4. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    I'm about 10 miles away from berryville, ark where wilson's shop is. But i thought they just customized other brands, i did'nt realized they "manufactured" from scratch?

    Springfield arm.. is the one i'm thinking of buying....then i hear Kimber is pretty good.

    I had a friend years ago who bought a colt m1911a1 or something like that..the econo version, black matt finish, rotten sights...ect ect... it developed a crack in the slide that basicly finished its useful life and colt would'nt stand behind it!!
    Also, i had a colt officers model 1911 years ago that was a jam-o-matic.....hated that sucker....but i know that was colts fault.

    The thing about sigs are that they are hard to beat "out of the box" anyway...

    I don't know.....

  5. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    Here at TFF
    If you are considering buying a Springfield 1911, check out the "loaded" model. It comes with all the bells and whistles you would probably add later.

    Pick up a couple of Wilson Combat mags. They are much better than the mags that come with the pistol.

    If you plan on shooting IPSC,IDPA, or just target shooting, you'll have what you need. An accurate, reliable 1911.
  6. Gunguy

    Gunguy Guest

    Is it true...that Glock slides are made from sollidified quail droppings???

    Get a real pistol...the model 1911 is the real sheet.

  7. Watch it Glocknut, you are stirring up a hornets nest here ;) .
  8. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
  9. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    I heard they stopped using quail and went to peacock. :D

    (mumble, mumble, stir, stir)
  10. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Well thanks Gunguy.....I was looking for an excuse to go back to Glock and get a 21c "45 w/comp".....

    I used to own a plain Glock was a great shooter, totally reliable...why i sold the thing I'm still trying to figure out?

    Now i know why once you "go Glock" you never go back to anything else....because to many people give you crap about it...:mad:

    Being a Glock fan is like being in the south, standing up on the barroom table and shouting "Hey y'all, I'm a damd Yankee, whata y'all think of that?"


  11. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    I mean, here i am thinking strongly about getting a 1911 and i get that kind of .... whatever you call it...about glock...

    It makes me feel like if i did buy a springfield 1911 that i would be giving some people the last laugh.....and i don't like giving up the last laugh at all......



    PS...thanks shooter45, your advice was what i was looking for..:rolleyes:
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2003
  12. Gunguy

    Gunguy Guest

    Ise sorry, didn't mean to be taken serious about the 1911 fued and the Glocks.

    The truth be known the Glocks are a well engineered piece of proven equipment.

    Some of us treditionalist just a bit sarcastic about plastic on anything except grips.

    Plus, old timers love the grace and beauty of blued steel or nickle finish on the Colts and S&W products.

    Except S&W is really stepping over the line with its venture in plastic and those ultra lite metals. Some of those pistols and revolvers are so danged lite when you pull the trigger you'd better be hanging on for dear life...can someone say RECOIL.

    Please know I'm just joshing about the Glock situation.

    Jim aka Gunguy ;) :p
  13. Glocknut, the last big Glock fan we had couldn't take the ribbing and has left the forum. Actually I do like the G36, big bore, small size, light weight. So don't get your feathers all ruffled if someone takes a poke at ya, just poke back ;) .
  14. gpostal

    gpostal Former Guest

    Feb 20, 2003
    Glocknut ,don’t take it personal ,we all here know what a fine gun a glock is ,and it’s downfalls ,most glock shooters knows this also ,but live in denial

    Around here asking such a question is like driving to mopar Sunday with a chevy

    Glocks are great shooters ,I personally don’t care for internal hammer guns period. , and their safety issue ,some feel comfortable with it some don’t , most here don't ,but yet feel comfotable carrying a 1911 cocked and locked ,but again i don't
    ,some sort of denial also

    Now your question was , Can a 1911 design last as long as a Sig P220?

    If you go to kimbers website ,they claim that their frames will shoot 20,000 rounds with no measurable wear

    Wilson has had 30,000 rounds with the same results

    i have read articals of 100,000 rounds ,through some 1911's , of course a part or two changed

    A 1911 is the indy race car of guns ,while everyone can drive a car ,not everyone can drive a racecar

    Now back to picking on your glock

    Can a 1911 design last as long as a glock in a 800 degree oven?

    This is a true test in some states ,under a pot metal manufacturing law ,but is not enforced due to the glock

    but anyway .WELCOME TO THE FORUM ,pull a chair up ,you can even bring your glock
  15. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Mike, this is all in jest. Please do not be offended. It is just our way of having fun.

    I bought a Glock, ONCE!

    Sold it a week later for a Springfield! :D :D :D

    Just can't stand the SPROING when you pull the trigger! Also, like lookin down the deck of an aircraft carrier! :D :D
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2003
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