can anyone tell me about my rifle?!

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  1. gtornai1

    gtornai1 New Member

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    I got this rifle from my grandpa and want to know more about it what type of 1894 it is how much it could be worth etc. any info would be great because I cant find another like it anywhere on the internet serial number is 393741 thanks

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    All I know about it is its a winchester model 1894 30 WFC and when I looked at the serial number up it told me 1907 round barrel and I don't know if its a 1/2 mag or 3/4 mag
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    That would be a 3/4 magazine. Half-mags stop flush with the forearm.

    Either that gun is in "oh my god that's perfect" shape, in which case it's worth beau coup money, or it's been refinished, and is probably worth a thousand or less.

    I can't tell from the pictures, but I'm betting on the second one.
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    Hello,

    Your Model 1894 SPorting Rifle was manufactured in April of 1908.

    Unfortunately, it has several negative issues;

    (1) The magazine tube has been cut down (shortened).

    (2) The barrel has most likely cut down as well. The orignial barrel length was 26-inches, and the magazine tube was full length to the barrel.

    (3) The entire rifle has been refinished.

    Bert H.
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    I'm not positive bu I think it had been re blued at one point is the peep sight original?
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    If it was cut down how would the mag tube be drilled and taped for the hold pin and the barrel would have had to be drilled too wich seems pretty stupid to do to a rifle does that happen often?
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    I'd bet on the refinish also as it has a Marbles tang sight and I do not believe the 94 ever came with a Hawken style front sight.
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    It has definitely been refinished. Does it have a rear sight on the barrel? The tang sight appears to be a Lyman No. 1, and while it is possibly factory original, 9 out of 10 were installed after the fact.

    Bert H.
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    Cut down barrels and magazines tubes are not rare. Lots of people altered their guns to suit them.

    Bert H.
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    Hawg,

    I could be wrong, but the front sight looks like a Marbles Sheard, and Winchester did install them on the Model 1894 Sporting Rifles.

    Bert H.
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    Did the sell a kit to make it work? Lol cause I don't understand how some one could customary modify it with parts that work perfect for it. I'm not disagreeing with you but am just curios on how that'd work and the barrel doesn't look like its been cut

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    And on the mag tube it's also been tapered for the screw... Just seems like its factory work more than custom
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    All of the factory original full length magazine tubes were made with the retaining screw and flat end cap. Whomever it was that shortened it simply drilled a corresponding blind hole in the barrel. Factory original "short" magazines have a rounded end cap, and do not have the retaining screw. Instead, they are retained by the screw that holds the forend stock nose-cap in place. Many gunsmiths are quite talented.

    Bert H.
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    Ooooo I see....so how much would it b worth like this lol
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    If it has a good bore and still shoots accurately, it is worth approximately $450. The serious collectors will not be interested in it at any price.

    Bert H.
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    Lol well that's depressing ... I didn't plan on ever selling it anyways I was just wondering thanks for the info
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    Would anyone happen to have a photo or link to what the original looks like
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    All of these at octagon barrels?... I'm lookin for something that shows how mine was cut down keeping All the original pieces on it and how would they put the front sight on like it is if it had been cut down
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