Carbide Dies

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by circa1885, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. circa1885

    circa1885 New Member

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    Mar 24, 2010
    Gulf Coast Alabama
    Is it necessary to use carbide dies for plated brass? I thought that I heard that it was necessary but can't remember for sure.
     
  2. American Leader

    American Leader Well-Known Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Iowa
    circa, carbide dies are nice because you don't have to lube them for processing, that's all I use
     

  3. Oneida Steve

    Oneida Steve Well-Known Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    Upstate NY
    You will need carbide dies. Plated or non-plated doesn't matter. If you don't lube the cases you must use carbide dies.
     
  4. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    I just love people that answer questions not asked.

    No. You do not need to use carbide dies if reloading plated brass. You can use regular steel dies. If you do use regular steel dies, however, you will have to lube the brass. Whether it is nickle plated or whether it is brass brass is irrelevant. Steel dies need lube.
     
  5. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Hesperia, CA
    Just top be clear, this discussion is about PISTOL dies. And the use of carbide dies makes it not necessary to use case lube. But if you have non-carbide dies (steel dies) you have to use lube on any case, plain or plated. You can not reload either steel cases or aluminum case successfully or safely.

    For rifle cases whether the dies are carbide or not you HAVE to use lube. Carbide dies for rifle cases makes little sense to me except they might last longer than plain steel ones (two lifetimes instead of just one lifetime). I am not sure but they also might burnish the surface of the case body (??) but that is not necessary at all.

    To further clarify, carbide dies remove the lube requirement only for straight walled cases, not for any case, pistol or rifle, that has a necked body. Those require lube.

    LDBennett
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2011
  6. Orin

    Orin Member

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    Jan 23, 2011
    Florida, USA
    Butttt! If you lube your cases, one type or another, You tend to get less scratches. A plated case may get kinda worn after many resizings. Whatever, its kinda nit picky. Like many, I prefer pure brass.
     
  7. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Hesperia, CA
    You also get less scratches if you use better dies too.

    LDBennett
     
  8. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006
    Minnesota
    If I have a die, any die, that scratches a case, it's going back to the manufacturer or the trash.
     
  9. Bindernut

    Bindernut Well-Known Member

    Oct 24, 2007
    ND, USA
    Most case scratching comes from them not being clean enough before ya run em through the die (carbide or steel...don't matter).
    All it takes is one dirty case to drop some grit inside the die and the rest of the batch will get scratched up too.

    If the die itself is doing the scratching...as in with brand new or known clean brass...
    Then, like Steve, I'd be sending it back to the manufacturer for replacement.
     
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