Chainsaw Fuel Ratio Question

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by garydude, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. garydude

    garydude Member

    My pops has a 1980-ish Homelite Textron 18" chainsaw that hasn't been working for a while. I got it to run last night, but I don't know what the proper fuel/oil mixture should be for that saw. I've had little success on the net. One source said 32/1 another said 40/1 and yet another said 50/1.

    Anyone have one of these older saws (1980's) and know what the ratio should be?
  2. jbrescue

    jbrescue New Member

    Mar 8, 2012
    N. Ridgeville, Ohio
    Get the universal mix oil that can go into anything and you won't have to worry about it. Homelites are probably 40 or 32:1

  3. GunNut89

    GunNut89 New Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    with quality oil, you can mix it 50:1 but i would mix it 32:1 to be on the safe side. after running it a while, pull the plug and check its condition. if its slightly oil fouled, lean it out a bit. all the stihl saws we sell at work is mixed 50:1
  4. jlloyd73

    jlloyd73 Active Member

    Nov 28, 2010
    I thought those guys were a 40:1.......
  5. Hammerslagger

    Hammerslagger New Member

    Jul 30, 2009
    If you use top quality 2-cycle oil (that is certified for 50:1 or 100:1) you will likely be just fine at 32:1 or even 40:1.

    Chainsaw engines ten to run under heavy intermittent loads and some late 1970's manufacturers specified as rich as 16:1; but my experience is that such is not necessary or good practice with top quality 2-cycle oils available today. You just waste oil and make a lot of unwanted smoke.
  6. agedhunter

    agedhunter Active Member

    Feb 22, 2012
    northern mn
  7. garydude

    garydude Member

    Thank you all for the help. I will try the 32/1 first and see what that gets me.

    Agedhunter, thank you for the link. This chainsaw isn't quite old enough to make the list that they had. I don[t know what model number it is, but it should be around the early 80's.

    Here's some pics of the old workhorse. Pretty cool that there is very little plastic on it.

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  8. papadude

    papadude New Member

    Mar 3, 2012
    From your pictures it appears to be a Super XL saw and they ran with a very rich mixture both of mine are mixed at 16/1 from experence I know 32/1 will result in scored piston and cylinder.
  9. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    GunNut is right on the money<what he just told you is a very good way to check.The only other way is to pull up the owners manual on line and check,most manufacures have info online.Not that
    gunNut needed me to tell him hes right lol:)
  10. garydude

    garydude Member

    Thanks again guys. I was guestimating the chain length and it measures 24" instead of 18". Dont know if that makes a difference.
  11. That saw is like the XLs I am prettty sure or so 16:1 and even if that is not correct, it will not hurt it at all. What many do not realize is you can run 16:1, 32:1, & 40:1 in saws that take 50:1 with no damage just lots ore smoke and some plug fouling. The richer the oil mix the more lubrication the mtor does get. With that said I am pretty sure you will ind that one to be 16:1 just like the old blue and later red/orange XLs. The old XL used to be the ONLY saw to buy and all I would have however now it is Stihl for me.
  12. glens67

    glens67 Well-Known Member

    Dec 19, 2010
    Middleton, ID
    I have my dads first out board motor, a 5 HP Wards Blue Ribbon Champion. Closest I can figure it is a 1944 or 46. On the tank is the mixture 3/4 quart of SAE 30 to a gallon of gas
    I haven't run it in a while, but when I did I never got lost, could always follow the oil sheen back to the dock....
  13. dwdw

    dwdw New Member

    Feb 10, 2012
    Try the 20:1 and if you feel lucky go to the 32:1 these older saw have wider rings, tighter to the bore and cause more heat build up in the cylinder. Newer use narrower rings with less tension. Thats how they get away with 50:1 mix.
    The universal oil packet for all 2 stokes work well in newer but won't hold good compression with older bores. New engines are lapped with a diamond lapping hone for a more perfect finish less friction.
  14. garydude

    garydude Member

    This seems to be a good starting place. If it smokes me out then I can back it off a bit.

    It really is an awesome saw. In the past we've run it so long and hard that when refilling the tank the gas would literally boil from the heat. Started right back up, usually one pull, finished the day.

    Thanks again guys! Outstanding information from all.
  15. agedhunter

    agedhunter Active Member

    Feb 22, 2012
    northern mn
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