Church Carry? POLL!

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by VegasTech702, May 14, 2010.

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Right to church carry?

Poll closed May 19, 2010.
  1. As long is it stays concealed... what gun?

    33 vote(s)
    84.6%
  2. Depending on the church's opinion

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    5.1%
  3. Stand up against the church's opinion

    5 vote(s)
    12.8%
  4. Why feel the need to carry to church?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    In Georgia, it is Illegal to carry a firearm to any "Public Gathering" and they consider Church services to be a public gathering. My pastor has borrowed and is in possession of one of my 357's so I know he is not anti-gun. When the state gets itself straightened out about individual rights then YES I would carry in church.

    Just look at the news if the past couple of years where people have come into Churches and have killed people. We all have the right to protect ourselves and that right doesn't stop at the Church's property line.
  2. pinecone70

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    I have been carrying for a while now, under the 'don't ask, don't tell' plan. If anyone disagrees with my choice, they may as well be telling me I am not allowed to put my hands up to defend myself if someone tries to strike me. No one can guarantee where I would be safe without my personal firearm, which I am in control of at all times.
  3. Eddie N

    Eddie N New Member

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    I believe weare still at war, no matter what other people think. Don't forget, Sept. 11, 2001 started out as an ordinary day for all of us. It ended early for some. And with the political climate, these days, anyone leaving their home to go anywhere is just asking for trouble. Keep it concealed, if you have to, but be prepared. That's myfeeling on the subject.
  4. Big ugly

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    Church does not mean that you free from harm by those who feel the need to inflict harm. It was not all that long ago that we had a church shootin here in Knoxville by some one off the street and not afiliated with the church.
    www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25882063/
  5. glocknut

    glocknut New Member

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    Your church just don't like your XD!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

    See how anoying it is.....

    Seriously...tell the pastor you will not be attending his church and that he will no longer be receiving donations from you!
    I sat thru a church sermon one time where the preacher preached about how we have to obey the government mandates without question. I flat out told him as i exited the small church that he was full of ****. The look on his face was priceless.
    I'm trying to be a christian...but an awfull lot of these church preachers just don't have a clue...

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  6. 45nut

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    I feel your pain brother. My opinion is this; until the time they post a LEGAL notice that no CCW is allowed, then you can and should continue to carry concealed.

    My story: I was on my church's security team comprised of mostly like minded individuals that only want to make sure the congregation is safe from fire, storm, heart attack, broken leg or active shooter. Active shooter is last in this list for a reason. It is the least likely scenario to happen. However, attacks on church congregations are increasing at an alarming rate and I think God gave us enough common sense to take care of certain situations, hence the reference to Jesus asking his disciples if they had any swords.

    Well, we had been doing a good job and the Elder's and Pastor decided to vote away the security team's right to exercise their Second Amendment right to carry concealed (for those that are licensed by the State of Texas) and my immediate response was to resign my position. I disarm for no man, period.

    The team leader feels exactly the way I do.

    I told my Pastor, who is a good friend, that not only was this a foolish decision, but if an active shooter ever did show up, it would cause more innocent blood to be spilled. I told him I was willing and able to stand between him and a bad guy, but not without the ability to protect myself, him and possible to kill the bad guy.

    Now, I am no longer on the security team, but I am in the congregation armed, willing and able to eliminate said BG per the team leaders instructions. I guess now I'm on the undercover security team.


    Luke 23 says this: 35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

    36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
  7. Trouble 45-70

    Trouble 45-70 New Member

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    The people of Germany obeyed their Government during WWII. That worked out real well didn't it?
  8. artabr

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    A "Church Carry" bill just passed the Louisiana state house on the second vote, IIRC the vote was 74 -18. The bill still has to go before the state senate.

    A local paper printed a letter from some pin head who opposed the bill. A very good friend of mine responded with a letter of his own.

    This is a thread that I started on that forum. The pin heads letter is linked in the op.

    http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36006

    Incidentally, just today in fact, that same paper printed an editorial that also opposed the bill. :rolleyes:

    http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/93828384.html



    Art
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  9. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

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    We recently introduced such a team at our church. However, they too are unarmed - it's an insurance thing. However, there are many police officers who attend, and many armed citizens who attend, and they carry. But, as long as you're serving on the "Watch Team" for that service, you cannot carry. I'm on the church staff, so, I can't be on the team anyway due to being busy every service, but, I always carry. :D
  10. UncleFudd

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    I guess I am a little different. I have never been asked and I do not discuss or ask if I can carry wherever I may be and no one ever sees my firearm.
    I have carried to church for many years, careful where I sit and am very comfortable being there.
    My firearm is not to protect others in the congregation and never has been, it is for MY protection and my wife. Don't threaten us and we will not bother you.

    Why would anyone ask or even let someone in the congregation know that you carry when you have no idea who the threat will eventually be?

    No one sees, no one asks and I do not tell, period in spite of owning the range and teaching concealed carry etc. every day.

    People might wonder or even guess, but they do not know and it is none of their business.

    However, now you have opened Pandoras box and you now have decisions to make and you can bet others in your church know all about your predicament. You have made yourself a pariah.

    UF
  11. Double D

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    Well, in my case my pastor knows I am a gun guy and approached me. The insurance does not recommend an armed team. But concealed carry is an option. There is a couple others we know are armed. I have been going to this church for 15 years and my pastor and many others there are just like my family. I would protect them in a heartbeat. Nobody knows I carry and I dont tell anybody. I am as discreet as possible. I couldnt sit under a pastor that was anti-gun.
  12. wpage

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    Dont ask dont tell...
    What would Jesus do?
    Cleanse the Temple of the outlaws!
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    Absolutely the way!! Choices have consequences.
    They can pass the plate to someone else. Oh well.
  14. williamd

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    Baptist church is one of the most dangerous places I have ever been!
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  15. yetiman

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    Have just recently started carrying in Church. There are no signs posted so my mouth stays shut.
  16. American Leader

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    I have carried in Church for many years and don't intend to change. What people don't know don't hurt them! Kinda of an old post ain't it!
  17. marlin795

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    I know how it is lol.
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  18. prepper for it all

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    This is a funny point, a church has the right to not allow guns but i can bet that if the bible said something about guns being religous they would all have one stashed under the pews loaded and cocked. I agree with the fact that i have a right to carry and if they dont like it then im findin a new church.
  19. dad2thebone

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    Church is a place of worship that gives you a chance to be with like mined folks and while i love that it doesnt mean im safe . So like others on here i agree, move on and continue to carry . At least you know you and yours are safe.
  20. Jerryboy

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    luckily, in my church everyone who is in good standing with the church is welcome to carry, so long as it's concealed during the services, and so long as they ask the pastor's permission first, though we don't legally need to since the building we meet at is rented and doesn't belong to the church.

    but even if the pastor said no, and if the building did belong to the church, I would still carry; I'm not about to be unarmed in a place that's a ripe target for someone who hates God enough to try to kill His children as they worship him. then again, I wouldn't attend a church that explicitly forbade it's members to defend themselves in the house of God in the first place.

    in times further past, every able-bodied male carried to church, and after the service they would perform militia drills and training.

    pro-gay? collaborates with the Anti-american Communist Liberal Union? doesn't sound like a church to me!

    none of your links work, what is the bill about?
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