Colt 1851 Navy 36cal. manufactured 1866 worth it ?

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by jack404, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

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    Colt 1851 Navy 36cal.
    New York address,
    London proof marks
    Late fourth model manufactured 1866
    Grips have a large chip of toe on right side, minor damage to left.
    Hammer and loading lever lug on barrel are early replacements.
    All matching numbers #190929.
    No original finish remaining
    40% cylinder scene.

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    http://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/5431/Colt_1851_Navy.html


    i've seen it shoot , up close too , gents put it up for sale , if i can get it for $1200 cash

    what do you think ??
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  2. Curtis R

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    I know nothing of pricing but it is a beautiful gun. I would love to own it.
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    In this area (rich in Cvil War History) they list from that $1200 USD to 4K and 5K. Condition and documented history making the difference. I think this a lovely example for the model. I don't believe $1200 is out of the question.
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    its got good documentation going back to a colonial warden ( like a traveling judge )

    bought in london 1867and we have receipts and papers , the box original but worm eaten and a mess i have to fumigate it but that will ruin the green felt and turn it brown , but colt boxes are not rare .. so i think i'll take the punt , and offer the gent $1200 cash and a .45 flinter bulldog pistol , he's asking $1450

    i've $325 on the pistola
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    Get it if you can. Looks like one that's survived a couple lifetimes of use, abuse and neglect -- and escaped being screwed around with. Not many found like that. I'm biggest on the tough survivors. Good Luck!
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    i shall if i can, but will have to wait till tomorrow its 11:30 Pm here ATM :) dont want to appear to be that keen eh ;)
  7. Buffalochip

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    BUT the Civil War ended in 1865, so it has no CW connection, it is London Armory manufacture, has replacement parts, and has quite a bit of pitting--that limits its value and collectiblity....
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    repairs done 1869 and 1870 (custom hammer and was not happy with work done on the "loading rod" (what was written) "rattle still persistent" )

    he arrived in Australia 1878, its been here ever since , it was part of a pair but they where split later in estate settlements ( one to each son )

    To Australian its quite collectible , historical considering who the gent who bought it was and did here

    true he was no civil war hero
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    I'm been doing a bit of down under history, right now Jack, pray tell who was the gentleman, perhaps he is mentioned in my latest reading matter, " The Fatal Shore ".
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    Capt James Renmark who opened the murry lands area and had a town named after him he served in the boer war before retiring
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    A U.S. Civil War connection would increase the value in the U.S. but probably would be irrelevant in Australia.

    IMHO, the asking price would be good; $1200 would be excellent. (FWIW, the US dollar and Australian dollar have almost the same value at this time.)

    Jim
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    Deals done , settle tomorrow ( monday ) $1600 cash and the old flinter pistol
    for the colt pistol and another one pictured below

    realistically i got the second one for 300?

    but whats it worth??? , here i figure $800 but pistol prices are way high here but it has 3 barrels ..

    magazine has a weak spring is the only glitch with it but i can retention that easy

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  13. dcriner

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    Jack, are you going to shoot that 1851 Navy? Many wouldn't, but I would.

    That Unique pistol looks very interesting.
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    yes i shall shoot it not often mond but definately when i get my mitts on it after the transfer

    and the Unique is a beauty eh weird but i like em that way
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    Jack,
    You say you will retension the magazine spring--is that hard to do? I have a .22 Colt Huntsman and both of the magazines have weak springs--they won't feed when fully loaded.
    Thanks,
    Chip
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    Those Unique pistols are well made, and interesting, besides being good plinkers. The trigger pulls are not good enough for true target pistols, though. The model imported into the U.S. was the one with a barrel of the same length as the slice.

    Jim
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    retensioning is not hard at all , how you do it depends on the spring used , leaf springs use heat and compression and quenching ,

    wire, heat with some stretching ( say 10% stretch ) and then quenching

    OIl quench where possible
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