COLT ACP .38 RIMLESS SMOKELESS PISTOL

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  1. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

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    It is interesting that sometimes on these sites I say that this or that gun has been reblued, replated, etc. I don't do this for fun and of course I can be wrong, but I have seen an awful lot of guns, and a lot of fakes, reproductions, restorations, or what ever someone chooses to call them, so I think I am not often wrong. The surprising thing is that many times, I will be called down by the buyer, who will insist that the gun is original and perfect, even though it is obviously neither. So I don't get flak from the seller, who might be expected to defend the gun, but from the buyer, who can't accept the idea that he has either bought an out-and-out fake or has paid too much for an genuine item.

    Jim
  2. saa

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    People are sensative when it comes to any evaluation where their judgement may be questioned. After all, they have spent their time looking, evaluating (to the best of their ability), and then making a calculated judgement of value and condition - and their final aquisition.

    When they come here to show it off, or even ask for opinion on it, they are sometimes taken aback that they could have been off base as to the actual condition and accurate evaluation of what they truly have.

    Human nature says that we usually react to this badly. We, as people, want to be respected for our knowledge and abilities, and we don't like it when we're found to be somewhat deficient.

    That's the learning process. We have to learn to embrace it, especially with a market like firearms - and especially old, antique, and collectible firearms.

    This is an amazing opportunity to listen and learn. To ask for help, evaluation, and advice - and in that, learn and soak up knowledge.

    If we're easy as possible in our evaluations and corrections when someone needs some help adjusting to the reality of what they have - and members realize that we are not here to beat them up. We're here to help them, and learn from them.

    Then we start to enjoy that give and take a bit more. Less emotion and more genuine interest in learning.

    "Every man is my superior in some way. In that, I learn of him." Emerson was brilliant with that statement, and I try to remember it daily.

    I hope we all do.

    Thanks Jim for your help. I look forward to you correcting me, likely over and over!! :) I'm always willing to learn.
    saa.
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  3. mkbrmb

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    This thread may be long dead, but I am new to the forum, and am enjoying reading all the old threads. I have been collecting the Colt Auto's for the last 30 years. What I used to be able to buy for a couple of hundred dollars, are now priced for thousands. Not because of any particular market increase, but wierd perception of "rarity" and self indulgence. "My stuff is always better and worth more that someone elses".

    There are actually many of these available, if you have some patience and keep looking. I have two of the 1900's sight safety intact, two 1902 Sporting, 4 of the 1903 pocket, and 2 of the 1902 military. I try to find examples that are decent on the outside, better on the inside, all are shooters, and there are a couple of sources for correct ammo. I would be glad to share sources, if anyone cares. The ammo is expensive, but is available. (Sounds like .223 right now, doesn't it?)

    I have seen several examples of Turnbull restorations, and they are beautiful to look at, but why not find the real deal to begin with? Or at least find one close enough to "fine" condition to make restoration unnecessary?

    Anyway, I'm sure it is very subjective, and likeone senior member stated, I'm sure something I will say will piss someone off, because it appears to question their judgment or intelligence. Luckily, I don't care.

    I think I will stop rambling now, go to my safe, get my latest 1900 with sight safety and go out back to run several clips through it.

    Best wishes.
  4. mkbrmb

    mkbrmb New Member

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    Just finished cleaning my Colt 1900. I ran 3 clips of 7 through it, held a 4" pattern from 25 ft., except for two pulled shots, one slight jam on extractor, easily cleared and no other problems. These guns are sweet to shoot. Of course, always use the correct ammo, 38ACP, NEVER 38 Super.

    Hope the person that started the thread has had a chance to shoot and enjoy the 1903 that they found. Looks like a 1903 pocket, maybe a 1902 Sporting, can't tell from the initial pics. Either way, a clean and nice gun.
  5. mkbrmb

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    Here's what I was just shooting.

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  6. soundguy

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    ....so what value would you place on this 18th century spanish flintlock bought in turkey-stan ;)
  7. Lanrezac

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    Those are excellent pictures of a nice gun, mkbrmb. Thanks for putting them up!
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