Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by TranterUK, Jun 4, 2009.

  1. TranterUK

    TranterUK Guest

    Concealment of a sidearm is a big subject, and has been touched on in several threads. As someone who has done it in very hot countries, I know it's often no easy task.

    I saw a new product yesterday that got me thinking. Its a fake laptop computer that is locked closed, and contains your handgun. Now you can open it in a jiffy, and carry the thing anonymously in a lop top bag, but can I be the only one to see a problem here.

    The 'fake' lap top is in itself desirable to a thief, something to grab and run with. The very thing you need when attacked is the same thing he is wrestling from you, cutting the strap with a knife. I saw the same problem with 'carry handbags', though less so with the bum bags.

    Am I alone in seeing this problem with these products? Do you agree?
  2. Tony22-250

    Tony22-250 New Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Snellville, GA
    Yes i agree with you. If i were to carry it would be a full sized 1911 in a pancake holster. Forget that lap top crap! maybe a laptop would be usful for like an MP5K or UZI but not a standard handgun.

  3. zfk55

    zfk55 New Member

    Mar 19, 2009
    Lost Prairie Montana
    Can you say "lap top crap" five times in a row very fast? :D

  4. Goneracin

    Goneracin Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    i totaly agree, that seems pointless. I carry a full size 1911 in a inside the pants belt holster. the only time it is a problem is when im wearing a t shirt that isnt quite loose fitting enough. then sometimes as you move you can see the bulge from the grip, but its hardly there.
  5. Powderhorn

    Powderhorn New Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    I've carried on duty and off for nearly 30 years now. I've carried in Florida, Texas, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel. I've tried so many different ways of concealed carry, my gosh its horrible when the sweat is rolling down your back and you got to strap on a gun and make like its not there. :(

    Nowadays I use the crossbreed when I carry a full size pistol, and when I carry my MK9 its usually in a pocket holster in my back jeans pocket, IWB-New York carry, or just in a front pocket if I am wearing baggy shorts. Smaller caliber guns like the LCP will tuck away just about anywhere, and I've certainly tempted to get one, but I paid a lot for my MK9 just to get 9mm.
  6. Maximilian II

    Maximilian II New Member

    May 25, 2009
    Northwest GA
    I have also seen briefcase style carriers for submachineguns, and again for "regular carry" they look like more of a target than an asset.
    I do see a use, though. For bodyguard/personal security types that won't themselves be the target of action, they allow the carry of larger firearms.
  7. sakeneko

    sakeneko New Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    IMHO hiding a gun in a fake laptop case makes as much sense as hiding your jewelry inside a fake DVD player at home. The thief would take the case even if he was fooled by it. :(

    I'm a new gun owner, but I'm also a Silicon Valley technical writer with just over 20 years experience schlepping around a laptop computer. (I haven't owned or used a desktop since 1988.) Laptop computers are theft magnets; a thief would go for your "concealment" case, not because he would think it held a gun, but because he *was* fooled by it and thought it was a laptop! Most professional quality "desktop replacement" laptops these days cost between $1,500 and $2,000, which is more than a good concealed carry pistol or revolver. Laptops also contain valuable information that, unless well encrypted, often nets a thief more money than the laptop itself.

    As a concealed carry technique, IMHO a fake laptop computer is a complete nonstarter.
  8. Maximilian II

    Maximilian II New Member

    May 25, 2009
    Northwest GA
    Agreed, sakeneko. Except for "exec protect" use, these are most likely to just disappoint a snatcher who realizes he nabbed a $600 gun instead of a $1000 computer.
  9. Powderhorn

    Powderhorn New Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    What we need is a turd bomb. Thief takes laptop. Laptop explodes when opened, showering thief and cohorts with poop. The ultimate payback. :)
  10. 40CalJoe

    40CalJoe New Member

    Jun 28, 2009
    In the middle

    Now that is funny. Can you imagine their surprise?

    May sound parnoid, but when we are home, I always have a loaded pistol within arms reach. Kids are grown and gone so its just the wife and I. When not home, all guns go in the gun safe which is bolted to the foundation of the hosue.

    Another alternative to hiding a gun in a fake computer at home, would be a clock designed to conceal a gun. The back is hollow and will hold most 4.5" pistols. And for carry, good ole IWB with an oversized shirt or covered by a jacket.
  11. TranterUK

    TranterUK Guest

    Now I have lived like that in some places, and you know what, I even took it in the shower!! Just under one fold of a towel.
  12. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Every time I'm in a Hotel, or Motel!;)
  13. Maximilian II

    Maximilian II New Member

    May 25, 2009
    Northwest GA
    Not so much a firearms idea, but-
    When I think I'll be in an area where muggings are more likely, I tote a cheap red wallet well filled with paper that is cut to about currency size. The plan is to throw it and run. I don't have a concealed weapon permit so of course (as a law-abiding citizen) shooting muggers is out of the question.
    Not to say I wouldn't beat the snot out of one if he gets close enough.
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