CZ Rifles

Discussion in '.22-Rimfire Forum' started by trooper10173, Mar 20, 2006.

  1. trooper10173

    trooper10173 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2006
    Messages:
    2
    New here so bear with me. I have heard good things about the CZ rifles. I would like to know what model would be best for bench rest if anyone has any experience with them. Thanks for any input.
  2. ZORRO

    ZORRO New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    140
  3. LDBennett

    LDBennett Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    6,296
    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    trooper10173:

    I have several CZ rifles: 550 in 30-06, a 22 hornet, and a 308 Varmint. These are all excellent rilfes for shooting off the bench. Interestingly, I bought the 30-06 CZ when after waiting several months I could not get a Browning A-Bolt Medallian (had same experience 15 years ago with Browning availability on out of stock guns), I replaced a Ruger No.3 22 Hornet with a 22 Hornet CZ (CZ shoots far better than the Ruger), and replaced a 308 Winchester Model 70 Varmint with the CZ Varmint. In each case the replacement CZ out shot the rifle being replaced. CZ makes good stuff!!!

    I can not ascertain from your post if you intend to shoot off the bench or shoot Benchrest competition. I would think that the next level or two up in cost would be required to compete in official Benchrest competition unless it is just local club benchrest shooting.

    LDBennett
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2006
  4. trooper10173

    trooper10173 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2006
    Messages:
    2
    LDBennett, I guess I am more interested in shooting off the bench than benchrest competition at the moment. I am glad to hear CZ making good stuff. I was looking at Ruger also and can see that from your experience CZ did do better. I realize that could vary from rifle to rifle though. Thanks for the input.
  5. rangerruck

    rangerruck New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2005
    Messages:
    449
    you didnt mentiona caliber, but if you like the 22 the super lux, or exclusive is the best boy of them all.
  6. 358 winchester

    358 winchester *TFF Admin Staff*

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2004
    Messages:
    7,335
    Location:
    Pensacola Fl. area
    I have a few CZ as well and they all out shoot the guns they replaced. My 452 out shot the Anshutz that I had and that was a expensive target rifle.
    After much looking and researching I went with the CZ again when i just bought my newest 30-06
  7. AGB

    AGB New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2005
    Messages:
    144
    Location:
    Brasilia, DF, Brasil
    Have used a bunch of CZ rifles, all great guns. Like them a lot, although I do not have one, they are really well lloked for, and get high prices in Brasil. The most commmon around here is the 452, a great gun in .22lr. Would be my first choice anyday. Last year got an Imbel model 1 in .22lr, almost as good as, an old style, almost as good as a 452, but produced in very small numbers.
  8. rangerruck

    rangerruck New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2005
    Messages:
    449
    if you are thinking centerfire, look at 223 or 308, for good cost, and for a little more cost , go to 6.5 swede , you can go 600 yds plus with that.
  9. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,811
    Location:
    Central Texas
    We're on the rimfire forum, so I must suppose your couriosity to arise about this caliber.
    Whether the question is about CZ, or BRNO, rifles, the answer is the same. There is no better rifle, dollar for dollar, in the marketplace.
  10. Jim Bell

    Jim Bell Guest

    Any of the CZ sporter rifles can be tuned to give .3 to .5 inch accuracy at 50 yds. However , that is not good enough for benchrest accuracy. You want to be able to shoot in the .1's group size. Look for a Brno model 3, 4 or 5 target rifle with the long heavy barrel to do the job if you still want to go with CZ or Brno.
    Otherwise, get a high end Aanshutz or look for a late model Winchester 52 C or D target rifle.
    A slightly cheaper solution would be a Winchester 75 Target.
    0.1 to 0.2 group size is common in bench rest shooting where the scores are full house 250 out of 250 and often with 20 or more out of the 25 targets having the shot absolutely dead center to take out the center dot. So then, a good target would be 250-20X in this example.
    So much more depends on the ability of the rifleman to understand wind flow and temperature conditions as well.
    You often hear shooters brag how their Cz or Ruger 10/22 can shoot on a dime al day but that is not good enough for bench rest nor is it even true.
    :)
    Jim
  11. rangerruck

    rangerruck New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2005
    Messages:
    449
    im not a great shot, but my cz centerfire does!
    [​IMG]
  12. olereb1

    olereb1 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2008
    Messages:
    4
    Location:
    Mississippi
    Yep, thats what mine looks like too-not every time though-only on my good days. CZ is a great gun, I have it in 22 mag.
  13. William Harper

    William Harper New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Messages:
    44
    Location:
    Montgomery, AL 36106
    Dear Trooper10173:
    With 60 years of shooting experience behind me beginning when my Father Weston R. Harper, a WWI draftee and BAR man and another old WWI vet, Alvin York, decided to teach the little rascal to shoot, through innumerable instructions, matches with rimfire, centerfire, and muzzleloader, I have yet to find any rifles more accurate for their weight than the CZ Lux and the CZ Ultra Lux Super Exclusive. Both have excellent iron sights-the Lux to 200 meters and the Ultra Lux to 300 meters. Their barrel lengths are 24.8 and 28.8 inches respectively. Single shot blocks are available, 5 shot magazines and 10 shot magazines, the latter two more easily loaded than Ruger's famous rotary mag. in the 10-.22. Both the CZs presently have superb triggers and both receiver and telescopic sights are available for them. My CZ Ultra Lux Super Exclusive has what I call a semi-match chamber, throat and bore. Accuracy with open sights and Aguila Interceptor .22 LR hyper velocity is 1.25" at 100 yards, 3" at 200 meters and 4.5" at 300 meters using a 12:00 hold at 300 with 3 of the hits close enough to take a squirrel cleanly.
    With the receiver sights of which 4 brands are now available, I usually make one hole at 25 yards, .5" at 50 yards, 1" at 100 yards, 2-2.5 inches at 200 meters, 3.3 inches at 300 meters(and this is with a good lot of Federal Automatch, which the Ultra Lux loves in quiet air) You realize this is the accuracy of a 300 meter squirrel rifle if you know the range precisely. Now let us depart the ordinary and use the high standing but economical Mendoza
    air gun receiver sight which is as well made as any Williams receiver sight and more easily mountable with 1/4 minute click adjustments plus Aguila Interceptor ammo with full knowledge of its fouling and use of the Ultra Lux's elevation adjustable front sight. Get windage adjustment by centering on your open sight which is already windage adjusted to 300 meters. Confirm your windage by firing three shots at ca. 50 clicks at 300 meters on a standard NRA 100 yard target. Then elevate rear to 160 clicks- front sight at least 50% lowered, and engage a Yellowbook at 400 meters. I have never missed one- once on. The group average is 7", the penetration on a Tampa Yellowbook averages 75% with much bullet deformation at 400 meters. Now run out your elevation and back on about three or four clicks to hold it and engage your brace screw to fix the rear sight firmly. Lower your front sight to 75 or 80% down and with a clean, dry bore take a sight picture on a YellowBook at 500 meters or a 16" black with clean paper above and below it. Expect a 10" group in quiet air first group. You may be on target. If you need more elevation lower the front sight a hair. Fouling will expand the group about 3-5" per group. I went 10" low, 15" higher, 19" dead centered tearing up a 16 inch bull out to the 7 ring. Lower the front sight fully and fire at 600 meters. My groups were 12" low, then 19" on the target paper. Penetration was the bullet's full length plus 1/16th inch in railroad tie. This was witnessed and I still have the targets and can repeat the performance at will in calm air. I think you can see there can be a little more excitement in marksmanship with the .22 LR than simply mechanically trying to punch in the smallest group at 50 yards. Now dismount your Mendoza sight and readjust your front sight in less than three minutes and with your open iron sights and Federal Automatch engage a standard fifty-foot black at twenty-five yards cutting one hole in that squirrel head sized mark. And both the Lux and the Ultra Lux can mount telescopic sights! I think you can see there is more to these CZ rifles than ordinarily thought and a wider scope of .22 LR marksmanship open to you than you suspected. I don't use a telescopic sight in my marksmanship research very often; they add unnecessary weight and you can buy a lot of fine ammo for the high price of a scope. Acheive mastery and let the lads gape as 4" silhouettes go down one after another at 300 meters. Intend to become a master of the elegancies of fine markmanship. Think about it.:)
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2009
  14. fyimo

    fyimo New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    187
    Location:
    Arkansas
    I recently bought a CZ 550 American in 22-250 and it pleasantly surprised me because it's a great rifle.
  15. da357mag

    da357mag New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    238
    Bought a 452 special, put in an AS sear and spring, pull is still too heavy for my taste
    so im going to put in a lighter one. opened the barell chanel up to simi free float it, it's
    been cold here (Medford OR) and foggy so have'nt had a chance to take it out and test
    it yet but I think it should do quite nicely! Doug
  16. jrg

    jrg New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    51
    If for scope use, go with Varmint, Silhouette or American. The hogsback stocked really are more for iron sights. Can be done, but you probably won't feel all that comfortable.
  17. GregD

    GregD New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2009
    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Chenal, Louisiana
    Mr. Harper you do have a way with words, I enjoy your post. :)
  18. da357mag

    da357mag New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    238
    Im back, I couldn't get on the site because of a glitch in my security system, anyway
    orderd a Yo Dave trigger kit for the springs and installed the second lightest one,got
    the pull down to about 1 to 1.5 lbs and passes all the tests. waiting on some half way
    decent weather to do some ammo testing. I tweaked about all that I think is needed at
    this point so I will think about bedding for another project!Doug
  19. redryder8888

    redryder8888 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1
    William Harper- Hi William I am Jim Red Ryder's friend and was very impressed by your article. We all went out target shooting the other day and I really enjoyed shooting the S&W 41 target pistol most of all the the 22LR pistols available. Currently I am 23 and on a pretty tight budget. Have been looking for a target pistol and could use your advice. Do you feel I should save up and buy a 41 or do you feel that my long term shooting enjoyment would be as well suited by a S&W 22A or a Ruger MKIII...as you can appreciate delayed gratifitation is omnipresent however if you feel that delayed gratification would be better long term I would heed your words. On another note if there is another pistol you feel warrants consideration your advice would be appreciated. Thanks Jim,
    P.S. I intend to keep this pistol for life
  20. pawn

    pawn New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,469
    Location:
    Crossville, TN
    Agree that per dollar spent, CZ is the best you can get. IMHO, you can spend alot more money and get a better rifle but not by much and not proportional to the additional cost.
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
.22-Rimfire Forum Mossberg .22 Rifles Jan 24, 2014
.22-Rimfire Forum Pump action rifles... Aug 1, 2013
.22-Rimfire Forum Henry Lever Rifles other than 22lr. Apr 1, 2013
.22-Rimfire Forum How about some rare or unusual .22 rifles Mar 25, 2013
.22-Rimfire Forum Evil features on rifles Mar 19, 2013