Dems introduce legislation to do away with self defense

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by 45nut, May 10, 2012.

  1. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    Dems want to control out lives here

    Congressional Dems Introduce Amendment To Make Self Defense Illegal
    Filed under Gun Control, News, Politics {163 Comments and 76 Reactions}

    The Congressional Progressive Caucus has announced it will introduce legislation designed to strip Americans of the right to defend themselves. Called “Stop Shoot First Laws,” the amendment to the Commerce, Justice, Science Appropriations bill under consideration in the House would deny states federal funding allocated under section 505 of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 if they continue to allow citizens to defend themselves.

    “Shoot first laws have already cost too many lives,” said Progressive Caucus co-chairs Keith Ellison and Raul Grijalva upon introducing their amendment. “In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldn’t be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people. This is no different than withholding transportation funds from states that don’t enforce seatbelt laws.

    “The message here is if you have this kind of law that your federal funding is going to take a hit because they make states less safe,” Adam Sarvana, communications director for Grijalva, told Politico.

    Well, who'd a thunk it? Progressives trying to outlaw self defense.

    Come and take it :eek::mad::D:D:D
  2. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    North Florida
    Just remember, liberals have a mental blockage that is very dangerous and really should be considered an illness. We cant be expected to understand it. They just make stuff up and throw it out there and the lunatic media runs with it. Wack jobs, all of them.

  3. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    That bill will probably be announced as Save Social Security..Save Medicare..Save Our Schools..Women's Rights..Gay Rights..muslim rights..Planned Parenthood Protection..
    Or, already in the obozocare bill.

    Another one of those bills where the GOP just won't be bipartisan, again.
  4. Juker

    Juker New Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Land of Lincoln
    If deaths due to self-defense have indeed tripled in Florida, then they're saving millions of taxpayer dollars in trials and the cost of incarceration.

    .45 round .... .43 (as a 'for instance', YMMV)
    2 .45 rounds ... .86
    3 .45 rounds ... $1.29
    (Just to be sure) 4 .45 rounds ... $1.72

    Pine box and plot in pauper's field ... $200.00

    Empty prison cells .... PRICELESS
  5. BlackEagle

    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2011
    It doesn't take into account how many innocent lives have been saved in self defense. The only lives that would be saved would be those of criminals who injure, maim, or kill their victims. If the perpetrators are caught the taxpayer is saddled with trial costs to convict them. Then they are either acquitted and set free to reoffend or imprisoned at further taxpayer expense, to be returned to society after sentence completion to reoffend.
  6. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    That bill is not going anywhere, but remember that the Democratic Party (including Barack Obama) will support this one, no matter what they say in the campaign. Any gun owner, even if he or she never carries a gun or wants to, needs to understand that the Democratic Party believes defending yourself, even protecting your family in your own home, is wrong and anyone who harms an attacker or home invader is guilty of assault or murder and should be imprisoned while the attackers go free.

  7. gvw3

    gvw3 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 16, 2011
    Chicago IL Area
    You forgot the cleaning supply's. Add $00.25
  8. Juker

    Juker New Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Land of Lincoln

    Also, deduct the $200.00 burial fee.

    Substitute $3 for used Habitat for Humanity shovel, and $2.94 for 96 oz. of Clorox Ultra Bleach.
  9. 25yretcoastie

    25yretcoastie Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Fort Pierce Fl
    They can enact it but who will follow it. Trial by 12 much better than carried by 6
  10. gad1111

    gad1111 Member

    Nov 25, 2009
    Swanton, Ohio
    Or a couple of bucks of gas in the industrial wood chipper.

  11. Deacon_Man

    Deacon_Man Active Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Weatherford Texas
    I use reloads, so my kill shots are cheaper.
  12. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX

    You put a smile on this old fart's face and I thank you for that. I do like the "wood" chipper idea though. You'd need the big one from ax men to do the job well. :D
  13. The_Rifleman

    The_Rifleman Active Member

    Feb 10, 2010
    ...therefore, the innocent should become victims.
    There is absolutely no reasoning with this kind of person; they are either insane, stupid, or evil.
  14. Silencer

    Silencer Well-Known Member

    The man speaks the truth! I feel the exact same way.

    This action is just beyond proof they're insane! We need to have them put in a 'jacket' and sent to a padded room.
  15. permafrost

    permafrost Active Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Oklahoma, USA
    Get ready for an onslaught of bills introduced, scandals , diversions of all kinds , stuff they know they can't win with, but it plays to their base and foments class warfare. Keep everyone's attention away from Obama's record. The lousy economy, no jobs, trillions in debt. The Dems can't run on his record because it sucks so they will use every diversionary tactic available to stir things up and misdirect our attention before the election. A TV special about him evolving to accept gay marriage? Come-on!
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