Documentary...Waco: Rules of engagement

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  1. kerk

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    Just watched it again on the Documetary Channel. Been a while since I saw it last.

    Nobody fired, nobody prosecuted. And after the dog and pony senate show, Hatch and Biden just swept it under the rug.

    Good refresher on gov. corruption.
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    I'd like to see that, but I don't know if I get that channel. I don't watch a lot of TV. It usually just gets my dander up.
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    TV rots your brain, play videogames instead. At least you have a hand in the outcome.
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    Years ago, we bought several of those on VHS tape and passed them out to anyone that would watch it.
    Judy got in touch with Thibedeau (I think that is right) who was there, to get the straight story also.

    I was always amazed that John and Suzy Q. Public could watch the news coverage showing all these agents hiding behind their vehicles as they fired into this church - er, I mean COMPOUND - and talked about all the weaponry the folks inside had, and yet not a single vehicle they hid behind had a hole in it, not a single window was broken, etc.
    Either the Davidians were the worst shots in history -
    Or they were NOT SHOOTING BACK!

    A TRAVESTY, but a wake-up call for a lot of Americans -

    But at least they protected all those children from the evil preacher -
    Too bad they burned them to death in the process -
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    I watched both videos, I did not wtch the Alex Jones video. I am goin to say this once and only once. The FBI and the ATF killed those people intentionally. Those women, and children were not allowed to escape. Three of the children had bullet wounds in them. One of the women was shot multiple times while holding a five year old child while trying to escape the fire. Jim Brannon is related to me, he is one of the lawyers that worked for the Dividians. He represented them for several years before the Waco incident and represented some of the survivors after.

    I am the way I am about government through personal and realtive experiences. And this is one of my earliest experiences that convinced me that our government is trash, our FBI is trash, the ATF is trash. All those politicians are trash. Biden is a piece of dog scat. That man is scum for the coverup and the coments he made to cover the FBI's tracks.

    This is one of those things that should not have happened. The company with the reports on the FLIR video should have stood up for those people murdered. Chicken Chit, Gonverment snowballed and we accept it. The media lied on those people, Big shock.
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    David Koresh was a douche, and I can stand any religious/political cult; including the Baptist church. I believe those people were killed by the government, though. I don't think the officers that fired the shots knew that the Davidians were unarmed, though. I think they were following orders...blindly
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    Do you really think all those guys firing for all that length of time did not notice no one was shooting back at them?

    I have no idea what David Koresh was like. The people in town there seemed to think he was OK, and the Child Services department that went out to his home found no evidence of wrongoing.
    Now, it is difficult to question him -
    Which may have been one of the purposes -
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    Wasn't Clinton in charge? Funny how many things just happened when he was in charge. Wasn't Ruby Ridge eerily similar?
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    I think if you're in a high adrenaline situation, and chatter is coming through the headset, or up the line, that you are receiving fire, and you are hearing shots fired in every direction, then that is your reality. Unfortunately it is sometimes realized after the fact that no one was shooting at you.

    Red - I think at Ruby Ridge, the feds were actually receiving fire.
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    I heard that also. But, not everyone agrees who fired first. When the 13 year old was shot by a sniper, I believe no one was firing.

    There were some differences, but some sililarity also. I just notice when people cross the Clintons, people can end up dead. An awful lot of heart disease follows those people.
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    Waco was an uncalled for travesty. A total waste of LEO manpower, wasted tax dollars and a media blitz. It could have all been avoided and done quietly if the people in charge would just use a little restraint and common sense. All that would have to be done was to wait Koresh out. An APB on him and wait until he goes to town and quietly pick him up and the situation is over. Without there fearless leader the Davidians would have gone quiet as sheep. A person from my church was in on that standoff and they said it was a debauchery from the start. Over $50Million spent for what? Just to kill all those people when it could have been eaisly avoided. Just an expensive 'show of force".
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    Rentalguy, I can agree in a short term situation -
    Maybe even for several hours -
    Probably not for more than a day, when guys get off duty and have a bit of time to reflect.
    This standoff lasted for TWO MONTHS.
    And yes, it was BC with Janet Reno.

    At ruby ridge, the boy was out in the woods with his dog.
    A sniper shot the dog, and the kid shot into the brush in the direction the shot came from, hitting nothing. The agents then shot him in the back as he ran toward the house.

    That was under the older bush.

    Unconscionable.
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    ""Over $50Million spent for what? Just to kill all those people when it could have been eaisly avoided.""

    ""Just an expensive 'show of force".""


    A revisit to the Clinton years. It's happening again.
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    Thank you for the edit. Seeing children die, upsets me.
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