Don't buy from KBAR Cartridge

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by 44stevenson, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. 44stevenson

    44stevenson New Member

    Sep 29, 2010
    Just wanted to let you guys know about a problem I encountered with KBAR cartridge when trying to order some once fired brass. I got online and noticed they had some great prices on brass so I ordered 1000 9mm and 1000 .308. Got the 9mm shells in about a week, but no .308. waited a week or so, then decided to make a phone call. I was told there had been a mistake and a lot of the .308 brass had got mixed up so they were having to resort and would get my ordered shipped and should have it in about a week. VERY LONG STORY SHORT I kept making phone calls and kept getting stories, but no brass. I remembered I had paid them through paypal so i decided to get on there and open a dispute, and did so 44 days after the order (glad i did it then because you only have 45 days to start a case).

    After starting a dispute I realized this wasn't going anywhere so I escalated the issue to where Paypal oversees the process and make a decision like a judge. Finally KBAR cartridge admitted that there was a problem and the package had not been mailed out. They told me to close my dispute case so they could refund the money. I called Paypal and they told me the seller was just trying to get me to close the case so they wouldn't have to pay me back, because they could refund my money while the case was open. It's now been 2 months and no brass or money back, I'm sure Paypal is going to refund my money to me just have to wait 2 more weeks.

    Just wanted to save you guys the time and the hassle so you don't end up in this situation.
  2. lawdawg

    lawdawg Member

    Jun 21, 2010
    South Alabama

    I order quite a bit of once-fired brass online from several different places. I will not order from KBAR.

    I've had good experiences with BBR brass (VERY fast delivery, quality brass, excellent CS, and free shipping) and SCHARCH once-fired military brass. These are usually the ones I stick with. Sometimes what seems like a bargain, ain't; and I would rather pay a little more for quality, assurance, and customer service.

  3. howlnmad

    howlnmad Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2008
    Harriman, Tn
    That sux. I hope you get your money back soon.
  4. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2007
    Athens, Georgia
    Thanks for the "heads-up".
  5. dbach

    dbach Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Trinity, TX
    I was looking for once fired .357 brass. After a lot of research I found that I could buy new brass form Starline for very close to the same price as the once fired. .357 may be the exception to the rule, I don't know. I had no complaint with they way they do business, an asset to the hobby I'm sure.

  6. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
  7. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    I thought pay-pal was anti anything firearm related.:dontknow:

    Best of luck to you, and thanks for the heads up.
  8. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
    nah thats ebay bob. Paypal dont care where you send you money so long as they get their monthly cut.
  9. skyfire1

    skyfire1 Member

    Jan 27, 2009
    South Florida
    thanks for the heads up.
  10. Apts

    Apts New Member

    Apr 17, 2012
    I got one worse, they took $16,000 worth of brass and haven't paid me in over six months. Do not do business with them.
  11. armoredman

    armoredman Active Member

    Actually yes, PayPal has been anti gun in the past, perhaps they've un-bent a bit. Good luck on getting your money!
  12. AAT Inc

    AAT Inc New Member

    Feb 20, 2013
    Kbar also took me for about $6,000. We had a good relationship for a couple years and then Jeff (the owner) took on getting into the projectile manufacturing business. He lost his hat in that business and instead of admitting defeat decided to screw alot of big clients to make up his losses. He was a great guy or so i thought but when it came to his money he got selfish. I have only one option left and that is to sue but frankly I don't want to waste 6 months of my life only to not get paid anyway. They are trying hard to sell the company but i dought it will sell. His career in the wholesale markets is already over anyway. I'll just forgive him, right it off as a loss and move on with my life.

    Sorry to hear all you other guys got screwed too! I was hoping i was the only one! :mad:

  13. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012

    thanks for the heads up!
  14. AR guy

    AR guy Active Member

    Oct 25, 2012
    Joliet, Illinois
    Ive been waitting 2.5 wks for 1000 9mm shells. wish you would have posted sooner. but i did call and got the same story about how they had to sort and mail out. i hope i get my shells soon.
  15. bamajoey

    bamajoey Well-Known Member

    Aug 17, 2009
    Checking online they have some bad reviews. You folks that have been screwed maybe should add to the list of dissatisfied customers.
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