Double Barrel 12ga help?

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  1. revmonday

    revmonday New Member

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    i have a double barrel 12 ga. the only name on the gun is Knockabout and there is a mark stamped into the gun that looks like a clover and r 4394 stamped into the under side of the barrel, fore stock and reciver. i think it might be a trade gun made by stevens. thanks
  2. jack404

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    G'day Rev , some info for you , rather generic , but hope it helps Knockabout has been used by a few makers

    from the US

    1) The "Knockabout" was a trade name used by Montgomer Ward & Co of Chicago, before 1925. This particular shot gun falls into the :Hardware Gun" Catagory and was Made or imported by Crescent Arms.


    CRESCENT ARMS

    This Company mfg’d good quality, inexpensive side by side and single Bbl shotguns and was founded in 1883. They were bought by the H&D Folsom Arms Company of New York, importers and distributors of firearms and sporting goods.

    After the purchase of Crescent, the Folsom Company was able to offer a complete range of shotguns, imported English French, Belgium and American made Crescents. By the turn of the century Crescent Arms produced huge quantities of “Hardware Guns” it produced guns under direct contract to distributors, mail order housed and hardware distributors with any brand name the customer requested. Crescent also produced guns for its parent company, as Folsom house brands that were sold to customers that did not want their own brand name.

    By the lat 1890's Crescent was producing basically five grade of dbl bbl shotguns offering a model for most tastes. The Crescent /Folsom Arms Company continued this type of business until 1930 when it merged with Davis Warner Arms Corp and became the Crescent-Davis Arms Corp. In 1932 it assets and machinery were bought by Stevens Arms Company, a victim of changing tastes and the depression.

    2.) FRANCOTTE, A
    Liege, Belgium
    Currently imported Shotguns and Rifles
    Importer - Armes De Chasse
    Chadds Ford Pennsylvania

    Francotte currently imnports side-by-side boxlock or side lock shotguns, double rifles and single shot rifles as well as bolt action rifles in the United States through Armes De Chasse. These shotguns and rifles are all custom built to the customers specification. Gauge (including 24 and 32 Gauge. Caliber barrel lenght engraving, wood type and style are all individually produced. No two are alike.

    From Germany

    JP Saur they have their own model named Knockabout and make a tailored spec'd trade versions for high end retailers such as Orvis.com

    From the UK

    Midland Gun Company Magnum Knockabout shotgun. It was a heavier version of the standard Knockabout gun, built with a weightier breech and designed to handle 3in cartridges. The barrel also had a raised rib and the company advertised it as a pigeon, duck, wildfowl or trap gun. It cost £4. 10s (£4.50) or £5 for the engraved version. The standard barrel was 34in, while 36in barrels were made to order and cost five shillings (25p) more. Rubber recoil pads were 12/6 (63p) extra.
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