Easter, Christian or Pagan?

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  1. Skyking

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    With Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread starting this Friday eve ,I thought I might provide some information on the counterfeit holiday that most the world observes.I did a word search on easter and it showed up 0 times in the Concordance verses 71 times for the word Passover

    Easter, Christian or Pagan?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exHCNDq4sEk&feature=related
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    many will argue this is a "jewish" feast when in fact it was given to ALL of Israel ,not one group was singled out over another, all of Israel left Egypt with a bunch of "others" in tow..

    this PASSOVER 2012 will begin on the evening of the 6th of April or the 14th of Aviv ,


    Exodus 12

    The Passover Instituted

    .14 ‘So this day shall be to you a memorial; and you shall keep it as a feast to the Lord throughout your generations. You shall keep it as a feast by an everlasting ordinance. 15 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses. For whoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel. 16 On the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and on the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation for you. No manner of work shall be done on them; but that which everyone must eat—that only may be prepared by you. 17 So you shall observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread, for on this same day I will have brought your armies out of the land of Egypt. Therefore you shall observe this day throughout your generations as an everlasting ordinance. 18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at evening, you shall eat unleavened bread, until the twenty-first day of the month at evening. 19 For seven days no leaven shall be found in your houses, since whoever eats what is leavened, that same person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is a stranger or a native of the land. 20 You shall eat nothing leavened; in all your dwellings you shall eat unleavened bread.’”



    Attraction Black Light theatre Silhouettes Passover Pesach


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZKJcHVWI_4

    just a friendly scriptural reminder
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    Christ was tortured for our sins, hung on a cross, and died there.

    He then rose from the dead, leaving an empty tomb.

    These singular events that have changed all of our lives deserve to be remembered and celebrated.

    Passover has nothing whatsoever to do with them.
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    Christian or pagan?

    I'm not sure where to start...

    Are you inferring that our Jewish family members are pagans? :mad:

    What do Passover and Christianity have to do with each other? :confused:
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    The crucifixion happened at the time of the passover feast, and Christ, the Lamb of God, shed His blood to atone for our sins and protect us from the wrath of God we so richly deserve. The blood of the Passover Lamb at the first Passover was smeared over the doorways of the Israelites' homes and those were the households spared the death of their firstborn. The passover sacrifice and feast looked forward to the sacrifice Christ would make for us.

    Because of that, as you say, as Christians we celebrate Easter, not Passover.
    I have some friends who declare Easter is a pagan festival; they are still my friends, but I firmly disagree with them. These are the ones who say Christmas is a pagan festival also. Sure the early church combined a pagan festival celebrating the new life of spring with the celebration of the new life Christ brings, but I think this was to help a heathen world understand Christianity. It is important for us as Christians to commemorate this every year as an ongoing witness to a heathen world, and as a special reminder to ourselves of what Christ has done for us.
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    Easter is when Christ rose from the grave leading the way for all who follow him , proving that this earthly world does not hold us , but that we who follow Him can cheat death forever ..

    as to wherther or not thats pagan , i'll leave other to decide

    easter is when i say thank you for the greatest gift ever

    salvation

    ( and take the grand kids to the royal easter show here )
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    The Pagan Origin Of Easter
    http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract1.html

    THE NAME (EASTER) can be traced back to the name "Astarte," the Syrian sun goddess, known as the "queen of heaven"
    http://www.remnantofgod.org/easter.



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    :eek:you guys are kidding right ....?
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    yes i agree we used a old name for this holiday

    but thats not why i or most folks i know celebrate it

    yeah all for renaming it Resurrection day or just Resurrection

    but that still wont change why i and others celebrate it ..
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    no i'd like to know too ..

    It is part of our history as far as the judeoChristian transition goes

    but whats it to Christianity now other than a lesson on how God works
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    hey i stand for Israel , i've even done contract work for the IDF , but i aint jewish , dont wish to be , Christs life and death allows gentile like me to stay gentile and still be welcomed into the Kingdom of Heaven ( full stop )

    those old ways have gone before and He has brought to us a new covenant

    should we as Christians be worried with that more than the things that have passed before ??
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    these references came from a "christian " bible

    Exodus 12:1
    [ The Passover Instituted ] Now the LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
    Exodus 12:1-3 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 12:11
    And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the LORD’s Passover.
    Exodus 12:10-12 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 12:21
    Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel and said to them, “Pick out and take lambs for yourselves according to your families, and kill the Passover lamb.
    Exodus 12:20-22 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 12:27
    that you shall say, ‘It is the Passover sacrifice of the LORD, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck the Egyptians and delivered our households.’” So the people bowed their heads and worshiped.
    Exodus 12:26-28 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 12:43
    [ Passover Regulations ] And the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover: No foreigner shall eat it.
    Exodus 12:42-44 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 12:48
    And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.
    Exodus 12:47-49 (in Context) Exodus 12 (Whole Chapter)
    Exodus 34:25
    “You shall not offer the blood of My sacrifice with leaven, nor shall the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover be left until morning.
    Exodus 34:24-26 (in Context) Exodus 34 (Whole Chapter)
    Leviticus 23:4
    [ The Passover and Unleavened Bread ] ‘These are the feasts of the LORD, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.
    Leviticus 23:3-5 (in Context) Leviticus 23 (Whole Chapter)
    Leviticus 23:5
    On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the LORD’s Passover.
    Leviticus 23:4-6 (in Context) Leviticus 23 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:1
    [ The Second Passover ] Now the LORD spoke to Moses in the Wilderness of Sinai, in the first month of the second year after they had come out of the land of Egypt, saying:
    Numbers 9:1-3 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:2
    “Let the children of Israel keep the Passover at its appointed time.
    Numbers 9:1-3 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:4
    So Moses told the children of Israel that they should keep the Passover.
    Numbers 9:3-5 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:5
    And they kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month, at twilight, in the Wilderness of Sinai; according to all that the LORD commanded Moses, so the children of Israel did.
    Numbers 9:4-6 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:6
    Now there were certain men who were defiled by a human corpse, so that they could not keep the Passover on that day; and they came before Moses and Aaron that day.
    Numbers 9:5-7 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:10
    “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘If anyone of you or your posterity is unclean because of a corpse, or is far away on a journey, he may still keep the LORD’s Passover.
    Numbers 9:9-11 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:12
    They shall leave none of it until morning, nor break one of its bones. According to all the ordinances of the Passover they shall keep it.
    Numbers 9:11-13 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:13
    But the man who is clean and is not on a journey, and ceases to keep the Passover, that same person shall be cut off from among his people, because he did not bring the offering of the LORD at its appointed time; that man shall bear his sin.
    Numbers 9:12-14 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 9:14
    ‘And if a stranger dwells among you, and would keep the LORD’s Passover, he must do so according to the rite of the Passover and according to its ceremony; you shall have one ordinance, both for the stranger and the native of the land.’”
    Numbers 9:13-15 (in Context) Numbers 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 28:16
    [ Offerings at Passover ] ‘On the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of the LORD.
    Numbers 28:15-17 (in Context) Numbers 28 (Whole Chapter)
    Numbers 33:3
    They departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the day after the Passover the children of Israel went out with boldness in the sight of all the Egyptians.
    Numbers 33:2-4 (in Context) Numbers 33 (Whole Chapter)
    Deuteronomy 16:1
    [ The Passover Reviewed ] “Observe the month of Abib, and keep the Passover to the LORD your God, for in the month of Abib the LORD your God brought you out of Egypt by night.
    Deuteronomy 16:1-3 (in Context) Deuteronomy 16 (Whole Chapter)
    Deuteronomy 16:2
    Therefore you shall sacrifice the Passover to the LORD your God, from the flock and the herd, in the place where the LORD chooses to put His name.
    Deuteronomy 16:1-3 (in Context) Deuteronomy 16 (Whole Chapter)
    Deuteronomy 16:5
    “You may not sacrifice the Passover within any of your gates which the LORD your God gives you;
    Deuteronomy 16:4-6 (in Context) Deuteronomy 16 (Whole Chapter)
    Deuteronomy 16:6
    but at the place where the LORD your God chooses to make His name abide, there you shall sacrifice the Passover at twilight, at the going down of the sun, at the time you came out of Egypt.
    Deuteronomy 16:5-7 (in Context) Deuteronomy 16 (Whole Chapter)
    Joshua 5:10
    Now the children of Israel camped in Gilgal, and kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight on the plains of Jericho.
    Joshua 5:9-11 (in Context) Joshua 5 (Whole Chapter)
    Joshua 5:11
    And they ate of the produce of the land on the day after the Passover, unleavened bread and parched grain, on the very same day.
    Joshua 5:10-12 (in Context) Joshua 5 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Kings 23:21
    Then the king commanded all the people, saying, “Keep the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in this Book of the Covenant.”
    2 Kings 23:20-22 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Kings 23:22
    Such a Passover surely had never been held since the days of the judges who judged Israel, nor in all the days of the kings of Israel and the kings of Judah.
    2 Kings 23:21-23 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Kings 23:23
    But in the eighteenth year of King Josiah this Passover was held before the LORD in Jerusalem.
    2 Kings 23:22-24 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:1
    [ Hezekiah Keeps the Passover ] And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and also wrote letters to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, to keep the Passover to the LORD God of Israel.
    2 Chronicles 30:1-3 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:2
    For the king and his leaders and all the assembly in Jerusalem had agreed to keep the Passover in the second month.
    2 Chronicles 30:1-3 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:5
    So they resolved to make a proclamation throughout all Israel, from Beersheba to Dan, that they should come to keep the Passover to the LORD God of Israel at Jerusalem, since they had not done it for a long time in the prescribed manner.
    2 Chronicles 30:4-6 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:15
    Then they slaughtered the Passover lambs on the fourteenth day of the second month. The priests and the Levites were ashamed, and sanctified themselves, and brought the burnt offerings to the house of the LORD.
    2 Chronicles 30:14-16 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:17
    For there were many in the assembly who had not sanctified themselves; therefore the Levites had charge of the slaughter of the Passover lambs for everyone who was not clean, to sanctify them to the LORD.
    2 Chronicles 30:16-18 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 30:18
    For a multitude of the people, many from Ephraim, Manasseh, Issachar, and Zebulun, had not cleansed themselves, yet they ate the Passover contrary to what was written. But Hezekiah prayed for them, saying, “May the good LORD provide atonement for everyone
    2 Chronicles 30:17-19 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 30 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:1
    [ Josiah Keeps the Passover ] Now Josiah kept a Passover to the LORD in Jerusalem, and they slaughtered the Passover lambs on the fourteenth day of the first month.
    2 Chronicles 35:1-3 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:6
    So slaughter the Passover offerings, consecrate yourselves, and prepare them for your brethren, that they may do according to the word of the LORD by the hand of Moses.”
    2 Chronicles 35:5-7 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:7
    Then Josiah gave the lay people lambs and young goats from the flock, all for Passover offerings for all who were present, to the number of thirty thousand, as well as three thousand cattle; these were from the king’s possessions.
    2 Chronicles 35:6-8 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:8
    And his leaders gave willingly to the people, to the priests, and to the Levites. Hilkiah, Zechariah, and Jehiel, rulers of the house of God, gave to the priests for the Passover offerings two thousand six hundred from the flock, and three hundred cattle.
    2 Chronicles 35:7-9 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:9
    Also Conaniah, his brothers Shemaiah and Nethanel, and Hashabiah and Jeiel and Jozabad, chief of the Levites, gave to the Levites for Passover offerings five thousand from the flock and five hundred cattle.
    2 Chronicles 35:8-10 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:11
    And they slaughtered the Passover offerings; and the priests sprinkled the blood with their hands, while the Levites skinned the animals.
    2 Chronicles 35:10-12 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:13
    Also they roasted the Passover offerings with fire according to the ordinance; but the other holy offerings they boiled in pots, in caldrons, and in pans, and divided them quickly among all the lay people.
    2 Chronicles 35:12-14 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:16
    So all the service of the LORD was prepared the same day, to keep the Passover and to offer burnt offerings on the altar of the LORD, according to the command of King Josiah.
    2 Chronicles 35:15-17 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:17
    And the children of Israel who were present kept the Passover at that time, and the Feast of Unleavened Bread for seven days.
    2 Chronicles 35:16-18 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:18
    There had been no Passover kept in Israel like that since the days of Samuel the prophet; and none of the kings of Israel had kept such a Passover as Josiah kept, with the priests and the Levites, all Judah and Israel who were present, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
    2 Chronicles 35:17-19 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    2 Chronicles 35:19
    In the eighteenth year of the reign of Josiah this Passover was kept.
    2 Chronicles 35:18-20 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 35 (Whole Chapter)
    Ezra 6:19
    [ The Passover Celebrated ] And the descendants of the captivity kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month.
    Ezra 6:1x-20 (in Context) Ezra 6 (Whole Chapter)
    Ezra 6:2p
    For the priests and the Levites had purified themselves; all of them were ritually clean. And they slaughtered the Passover lambs for all the descendants of the captivity, for their brethren the priests, and for themselves.
    Ezra 6:19-21 (in Context) Ezra 6 (Whole Chapter)
    Ezekiel 45:21
    “In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall observe the Passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
    Ezekiel 45:20-22 (in Context) Ezekiel 45 (Whole Chapter)
    Matthew 26:2
    %pA“You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified.”
    Matthew 26:1-3 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter)
    Matthew 26:17
    [ Jesus Celebrates Passover with His Disciples ] Now on the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying to Him, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?”
    Matthew 26:16-18 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter)
    Matthew 26:18
    And He said, “Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is at hand; I will keep the Passover at your house with My disciples.”’”
    Matthew 26:17-19 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter)
    Matthew 26:19
    So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they prepared the Passover.
    Matthew 26:18-20 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter)
    Mark 14:1
    [ The Plot to Kill Jesus ] After two days it was the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take Him by trickery and put Him to death.
    Mark 14:1-3 (in Context) Mark 14 (Whole Chapter)
    Mark 14:12
    [ Jesus Celebrates the Passover with His Disciples ] Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they killed the Passover lamb, His disciples said to Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare, that You may eat the Passover?”
    Mark 14:11-13 (in Context) Mark 14 (Whole Chapter)
    Mark 14:14
    Wherever he goes in, say to the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says, “Where is the guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?”’
    Mark 14:13-15 (in Context) Mark 14 (Whole Chapter)
    Mark 14:16
    So His disciples went out, and came into the city, and found it just as He had said to them; and they prepared the Passover.
    Mark 14:15-17 (in Context) Mark 14 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 2:41
    [ The Boy Jesus Amazes the Scholars ] His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover.
    Luke 2:40-42 (in Context) Luke 2 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:1
    [ The Plot to Kill Jesus ] Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called Passover.
    Luke 22:1-3 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:7
    [ Jesus and His Disciples Prepare the Passover ] Then came the Day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover must be killed.
    Luke 22:6-8 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:8
    And He sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat.”
    Luke 22:7-9 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:11
    Then you shall say to the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you, “Where is the guest room where I may eat the Passover with My disciples?”’
    Luke 22:10-12 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:13
    So they went and found it just as He had said to them, and they prepared the Passover.
    Luke 22:12-14 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    Luke 22:15
    Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
    Luke 22:14-16 (in Context) Luke 22 (Whole Chapter)
    John 2:13
    [ Jesus Cleanses the Temple ] Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
    John 2:12-14 (in Context) John 2 (Whole Chapter)
    John 2:23
    [ The Discerner of Hearts ] Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name when they saw the signs which He did.
    John 2:22-24 (in Context) John 2 (Whole Chapter)
    John 6:4
    Now the Passover, a feast of the Jews, was near.
    John 6:3-5 (in Context) John 6 (Whole Chapter)
    John 11:55
    And the Passover of the Jews was near, and many went from the country up to Jerusalem before the Passover, to purify themselves.
    John 11:54-56 (in Context) John 11 (Whole Chapter)
    John 12:1
    [ The Anointing at Bethany ] Then, six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus was who had been dead, whom He had raised from the dead.
    John 12:1-3 (in Context) John 12 (Whole Chapter)
    John 13:1
    [ Jesus Washes the Disciples’ Feet ] Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
    John 13:1-3 (in Context) John 13 (Whole Chapter)
    John 18:28
    [ In Pilate’s Court ] Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover.
    John 18:27-29 (in Context) John 18 (Whole Chapter)
    John 18:39
    [ Taking the Place of Barabbas ] “But you have a custom that I should release someone to you at the Passover. Do you therefore want me to release to you the King of the Jews?”
    John 18:38-40 (in Context) John 18 (Whole Chapter)
    John 19:14
    Now it was the Preparation Day of the Passover, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Jews, “Behold your King!”
    John 19:13-15 (in Context) John 19 (Whole Chapter)
    Acts 12:4
    So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.
    Acts 12:3-5 (in Context) Acts 12 (Whole Chapter)
    1 Corinthians 5:7
    Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
    1 Corinthians 5:6-8 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 5 (Whole Chapter)
    Hebrews 11:28
    By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
    Hebrews 11:27-29 (in Context) Hebrews 11 (Whole
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    ok you cut and paste a whole pile , so what ?

    answer the question please..
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    Acts 12:1-4

    King James Version (KJV)
    Acts 12

    1Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.

    2And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

    3And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

    4And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.


    Herod was not a Christian nor a Jew, he obviously was celebrating easter for pagan reasons, there are only 365 days in a year, and with the multitude of customs on this world there are likely to be some holidays that overlap, its the meaning in which you celebrate that denoted whether its pagan or Christian
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    i was in a "chat' with some gays who say the church supports gays , they cut and paste all these bits as well

    but left out the bits that show the Bible says gays are wrong

    i get these cut and paste answers from the lefties too

    if we are below answering ok ..

    but we did ask for you to explain why we are all so wrong ..
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    The name "Easter" is of pagan origin.
    But that is NO excuse to not recognize the fact that Christ died for our sins and then rose from the dead!!

    If one eschews Easter services because the name is Pagan, they must also avoid Sunday services because Sunday is pagan; the day dedicated to the Sun God.

    And they must eschew Saturday services because Saturday is pagan; the day dedicated to the god Saturn.

    Etc etc - for every day of the week.

    We do not avoid recognition of the birth of Christ, his sacrifice or his resurrection based upon the fact that the name of each holiday has a pagan origin.

    But I am certain there are powers and principalities that rejoice when they can convince any Christian to ignore these basic Christian events.
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    Cheers Terry
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    Do Christians need to celebrate the passover?

    Matthew 5:17-18 (KJV)
    17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    So did Christ fulfill the law concerning the passover?
    By his death he did.

    John 1:29 (KJV)
    29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

    The sacrificial laws were fulfilled; they were completed on the Cross when Christ said "it is finished"
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    did all these not come out of your bible, if they did then ,are they not important and some are even from your new covenant ...
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    so no to the question , ok , and yes they all come out of the Bible ...

    i've seen folks pull bits outta the bible to justify what they want to say too

    Jim Jones was rather good on it .. folks who argued with him often gave up as he knew where and what to pick and could do it at depth to justify his view

    that too using only The Bible

    dont make me think just cause the answer is a bible quote or address the answer is kosher ..

    ever read alister crowley

    he responded to the archbishop made it look that satanism was the true faith and that too using just the Bible ( archbishop was lost and he was one of the best biblical historians about.. )

    oh and that iranian cleric who quotes the Bible the Christian one) puts up a pretty good argument to wipe out Israel ..

    i was asking for a explanation

    Terry beat ya to it and was spot on in just a few words

    Cheers again Terry
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