Electrical smart meter (spy device w/o warrant)

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Marlin T, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. Marlin T

    Marlin T Well-Known Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    New Mexico
  2. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Make em take it out! I don't have one, and a 1 watt transmitter probably wouldn't work way out here in the country anyway.

  3. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    I have a simple question. What is the selling point the power companies are telling the consumers the smart meter does?
  4. Marlin T

    Marlin T Well-Known Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    New Mexico
    The meter reader is no longer needed.

    One watt is plenty to make it miles to your local power company.
    Ours is a 3 watt meter.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2011
  5. Juker

    Juker New Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Land of Lincoln
    We've had one for at least five years. They provide a more accurate report of power consumption, not for spying purposes, but for billing. They also give the power company a better idea of peak usage so they can avoid brownouts.

    I see his points in the video, but really don't think it's anything for me to get in a twist about.
  6. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    West Tennessee
    The signal is sent in induced into the power lines.
    We live in a valley where cell phones, wireless internet, TV signals, etc. just don't reach. When LE friends stop by, they use our land-line to check in because their police radios don't reach out of here.
    But our meter transmitter works fine -

    Yes, these eliminate the meter reader.
    We have had it about a year now, and no problems -

    If it bugs anyone, put in a timer on a light - that will show usage pattern and keep them from telling when you are home or not even if that would be useful somehow.
  7. Kieran McCaig

    Kieran McCaig New Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    They started using them here to be able too use time of use billing.Peak power hours pay more money,alot of it was to stop people from leaving the A/C on when not at home.Just wait for the next power failure and by pass it.
  8. Win73

    Win73 New Member

    Aug 20, 2009
    That is a useless idea. The current drawn by even a 100 watt bulb is inconsequintal when compared to the current drawn by your HVAC system as it heats or cools your house whether you or home or not, or by your water heater if it is electric. Also there are all the electronics that we keep plugged in and on such as computers, TV's, stereo systems, clocks, microwaves, etc.

    Besides, the power company doesn't care whether you are home or not and can't tell if you are or aren't. (I'm an engineer with a power company. We just want you to keep using those kilowatt hours and send us your check each month. After all someone has to pay my exorbitant salary. Although come bill paying time it doesn't seem so exorbitant!)
  9. Win73

    Win73 New Member

    Aug 20, 2009
    Yes, and as soon as the power comes back on the power company will know that you have done it. Stealing power is a criminal offense. And they will prosecute.

    Out of curiosity, just how would you bypass it?
  10. HunterAlpha1

    HunterAlpha1 Former Guest

    Aug 8, 2011
    Yorktown, VA
    this actually sounds rather economical, turning off lights that have been on for too long. i know that kids will often leave a room and not bother turning off the light and with no intention of returning to that room any time soon. but what would be needed is an exception list. if you put a roast in the oven and head off to church, you definitely don't want to return home to find that your dinner is still uncooked.

    ofcourse, this is still a blatant invasion of privacy. if you want to make sure your kids turn the light off before they leave the room, give them a consequence when they fail to do so.
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2011
  11. jbmid1

    jbmid1 Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2011
    Tucson, AZ
  12. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    because if you dont get them then they devalue your house's value by 30,000 -90,000


    just more of the same from the eco terror group called the greens

    legislation that states if you dont fall into line they wipe out the value of your assets , here's a side line , ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE SHOWN COMMITMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE A VALUER. so only die hard communist turn ed environmentalists will be the judges and folks wonder why we dont want these US experts here advising us ??
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2011
  13. Redhand

    Redhand Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Our local AEP installed these meters several yrs ago and their rates have gone up ever since. We are paying for the installation and they are reaping the benifits of less fuel expense and man hours to read your meters. They recently asked for a 25% increase in utility rates. When was the last time you got a 25% raise?:mad::mad::mad::confused::mad::eek::mad:
  14. Blackhawk Dave

    Blackhawk Dave Member

    Nov 20, 2008
    Denton, TX
    They're mandated in Texas now, and we have to pay for these suckers, even though the electric companies won't have to read the meters any more.

    Now, some companies are hyping, let us control your AC, etc and we'll cut you a break on the electric power. Nah. All they'll do is raise the overall rates so there's no real savings.
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