Enfield 1870 - What kind of value?

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by dnofs33, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. dnofs33

    dnofs33 New Member

    Dec 17, 2011
    My grandfather passed away this past year and he left me a few of his guns that he collected. All the other weapons left were modern but this one. I haven't the slightest clue as to what it is or what kind of value it has. I can tell it's not in top notch condition, but am curious what I might have. Please see the photos below.

    A few things to note: 1) No, I did not take a wire brush to the barrel - it was in that condition when I got it. 2) The barrel does not have rifling in it. 3) The gun is approximately 37.25 inches from stock to end of barrel 4) I'm only allowed 4 photos but it looks as if on the top of the breach area there is a III stamped into the barrel - I'm not sure if this means it is a Mark III.

    Let me know if you need any further info to be of assistance.

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  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    First off welcome ! now to me that be a SNIDER-ENFIELD MKIII CAVALRY CARBINE CAL. .577 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snider-Enfield

    heres a dealers offer ( these folks are not that expencive really as a dealer ;) )

    and yours is way better looking .. and looks way more original .. dunno the value there


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  3. Hawg

    Hawg Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2011
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  4. permafrost

    permafrost Active Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Oklahoma, USA
    Pretty darn cool! I'd be tickled if grandad left me somethin' like that. He's been gone since '46, so I tired of waitin' for my inheritance.:)
  5. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    I bought mine of a family who migrated here and had one , they did not believe all the paper work then for licence and gun safe and all the rest , so offered it up for sale

    i've shot it and do so annually or so ,,, been a while now though .. but it aint as nice as the one dnofs33 has now ... bores good , but the exterior and markings , surface rust on and off diring its life did it , never too bad , but accumulated damage ..

    i offered $700 here when that was = to $620 USD or so .. i remember the gent worked it out

    he asked for $650 US and i said ok , got it bonded, got a agent and "imported it" from the bonded store at botany bay Sydney

    i'd bargained a bit based on the import costs even from a couple miles and angents fee's and tax's

    i thought it worth $750 US then as a occasional shooter /collection piece
  6. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Just FWIW, the Snider breech was invented by an American, Jacob Snider, but was used mostly by the British, though it was copied in some places in the Empire. Like the U.S. "trapdoor" it was originally used to convert muzzle loading rifle muskets to breech loaders, then later used on new rifles.

    That carbine is not a conversion of a muzzle loader; it was made at Enfield in 1870 as a cartridge gun. It would have originally had shallow five-groove rifling*, but it is possible that the rifling was reamed out and the gun converted to a shotgun at some point.

    *Jack, check me on this - I think those had five groove rifling, but don't have one to be sure.


  7. DixieLandMan

    DixieLandMan Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    Looks like mine. I get ammo from GAD custom cartridges.

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  8. Saw one on Sat. at a smith/dealer in Ozark, Mo. He says the client wants 850. It's real pretty. Not sure if that price is in line w/ the "market". Just a witness, not an expert.
  9. DixieLandMan

    DixieLandMan Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    Paid $140 or $160 for mine. Got a sweet deal on it.
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