FBI to tax new firearms sells.

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  1. flannelman

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    http://www.gunlaws.com/fgogup.htm

    FLORIDA ESCAPES NEW FEDERAL GUN TAX
    FBI To Levy Tax By End Of Year

    Only 20 States Exempted $13-$16 Applies to
    Retail Gun Sales

    Under the general banner of crime reduction, and citing the Brady law for its authority, the FBI plans to tax the retail sale of handguns and long guns, starting Nov. 30, if their new computer systems are ready in time. The proposed tax could generate $1 million per week nationally, based on the bureau's estimates. Detailed information is included in a report just issued by Phoenix-based Bloomfield Press, a book publisher specializing in gun law [Ed.: Summary of Findings on request and website].

    Perhaps more significant than a surprising new tax from the Justice Department -- without any apparent Congressional approval -- is the FBI's announced plans to record complete identifying information on every person who purchases a firearm from a licensed dealer. Any regulation that requires such recording has been prohibited under the McClure-Volkmer Act since 1986. Neither the tax nor the gun-buyer registration scheme appear to be legal, according to Alan Korwin, co-author of The Florida Gun Owner's Guide. Korwin has written seven books on gun law. His Florida guide, released in February, has all the state's gun laws and is his latest.

    The federal registration and tax plan are being rolled out under the guise of the National Instant Check System, required when Part 1 of the Brady law expires this year. Under Brady Part 2, all retail handgun and long gun sales will have to run through the system, which the FBI has based at its Clarksburg, W. Va., data center. They are hiring 500 people to handle the anticipated load.

    The FBI intends to waive the tax for any state that sets up an FBI-approved central firearms clearance center. Florida's background check system has been approved, placing its state police under a degree of FBI control. In other states, each dealer will have to "enroll" with the FBI to legally make a sale, and pay the tax on every purchase. The Bureau will accept credit cards or will arrange to bill dealers, and those who don't pay (or are real late on the invoice) will be literally out of business. Several authorities have indicated that they expect enough clamor from the taxed dealers to compel their states to comply. When 100 Arizona dealers were told at a government meeting in June, that they would not be taxed, they cheered, apparently oblivious to the implications of federalizing their local police.
  2. armedandsafe

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    They don't have to obey the law. They ARE the law. Just ask them.

    Pops
  3. Hardballer

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    Some day, there will be outrage. I hope it won't be to late.
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    When their own dang studies show that criminals aren't buying guns legally, it's awful difficult to believe that this is being done for crime control... :rolleyes:
  5. 45nut

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    Oh yeah, it's for crime control. For the future crime of speaking or acting against Fedzilla.

    Lock and load brothers (& sisters) our time's coming.
  6. cycloneman

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    Dont we pay taxes allready? Why do they need another tax to do their job?
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    I'd sure like to know what their authority is for the imposition of a tax. I don't believe anyone other than the Dept. of the Treasury can impose or collect taxes, and no executive agency can impose taxes without specific authorization from Congress. So I'd like to see where they get the idea they can levy a tax. And how they're going to get around the fact that all taxes must be paid into the general treasury, and using any money received without going through the Treasurer of the U.S. is a crime, misappropriation of federal funds.
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    This has to be a hoax. The constitution only permits congress to levy taxes. the F.B.I. simply does not have this authority. Think about it for a min...it's absurd.
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    WOW a tax on the 2nd amendment. Dont think any other rights are taxed.
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    What kills me is how all of these agencies think they have juridiction over guns. DEA, ATF, FBI, IRS, and etc... It's getting to be a little stupid.
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    Not stupid. We gotem they wantem. They gaota getem before they can put the rest of their plan in place, what ever it is to enslave the nation. FBI is just a small cog in that machine.
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    What's the date on that? The link says it's "older material."

    The FBI does NOT have the authority to impose or levy taxes. Congress has the power to impose and levy taxes under the Constitution, not the Dept. of Justice. That's why BATFE (which is nothing but an overblown, bloated tax collection organization) was originally part of the Treasury Dept. Since BATFE is now part of DHS, would they still have authority to collect taxes? Hmmm...

    Of course, I could see Barry trying to come up with some kind of scheme like this. Anything to generate more oney for his new socialism.

    Hey Barry, get a clue you Kenyan Usurper...SOCIALISM SUCKS!!!!!!!
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    I know here in Alabama (and many other states as well) a law has been passed that limits Federal Government intervention in the affairs of things such as guns laws and sales. Who knows, maybe this will all turn into a States Rights issue all over again. Circa 1861-1865?
  14. armedandsafe

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    Hmmm I thought the "older material" was a link to previous pages in that site. I'll have to go look again, I guess.

    Pops
  15. armedandsafe

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    This is, indeed older news. I got fooled by it as well. The original "It's a Crime, Bill" called for a 5 day waiting period, but was replaced by the NICS system in 1998. That is when the article above was written. Below from Wiki.

    Pops
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    When I found this I didn't have time to dig deeper. Thanks for the update Pops.
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    Until you dig, you never know. This is the kind of thing they would try. When I read your post without following the link I assumed that it was some kind of fee they were imposing, and the author was calling a spade a spade, and calling it a tax.

    Dale
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    Exactly. It would not suprise me one bit if Barry and his closet-commie cronies dug this up and tried it again.
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