For Conceald Carry; A .22 Mag, .32 ACP or a .38 Special?

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  1. Rhuga

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    Wow! 30 rounds. Now thats what I call being able to follow up the first shot!
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    Can I vote for the .327 Federal after looking at the muzzle energy charts on that site?:eek:

    Ballistics out of a 3" barrel (using the strongest loads listed):
    .38 Special Speer 135gr- 892fps 280ft-lbs
    9mm Cor Bon 115gr +P- 1245fps 390ft-lbs
    .45ACP Cor Bon 185gr +P- 999fps 415ft-lbs
    .357 Magnum Cor Bon 125gr- 1271fps 450ft-lbs
    .327 Federal Speer 115gr- 1316fps 440ft-lbs

    That little .327 brings the heat! Then factor that you can throw 6 of those in a J-frame that normally only holds 5 .38 rounds! Out of a Ruger GP100 with the 4" barrel it dials up to 600ft-lbs and you hold 7 shots. That thing is straight nasty, why would you even bother with a .38 Special when something like that exists?
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    lol yeah but with the rimfire shell type u might get a dead spot in a primer an have it ftf on you so u'll have to cock it again if you can get that far , for concealed carry go with a center fire cartridge handgun , i carry my 1911 gi expert in 45acp loaded with 8 magtech personell deffense rounds ,i was also thinken about carrying my 500 s&w magnum , but whats the chances ill need to shoot thru 3/4 inches of steel lol
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    Plasma. Not just hot gas, superheated molecules, as in "plasma cutter".

    I checked on this issue with a couple of expert gunsmiths, one of whom has been doing work on revolvers for over fifty years, who confirmed my analysis. And it isn't a matter of cleaning crud out of the chambers; the chambers themselves are vaporized slightly with each round. The metal evaporates. That's why plasma cutters go through steel like butter. And, as I said before, occasional use of a .38 cartridge in a gun chambered for .357 isn't going to cause any problems. But consistent use will damage the cylinder.
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    If that's the case magnums would damage it even further.

    Oh, and I doubt any cartridge can reach the 50000f temps a plasma torch can reach
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    "Irresponsible"? Well, I suppose a .22 will work if you can get the bullet to go precisely where you want it to and you're close enough to the target. So technically inaccurate. A feeble attempt at humor as a way of characterizing my opinion; hyperbole, perhaps. But "irresponsible"?
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    .38 spl w/ +P Hollow Pts.
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    A .38 special would be my choice, of the three. However I carry a .357 magnum, most days. For the days I need to tuck in my shirt and carry a pocket gun, I have a Ruger .38 special LCR, in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster.
    At this moment I have the .357 magnum Ruger LCR in a Strong side Pancake holster on my belt.
    Make your own choice, whatever you are comfortable with. We live or die by our choices, sometimes.
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    All calibers mentioned are lethal, but the question remains...WHEN? Most gunfights are over with no more than 2 or 3 shots fired. With the smaller pocket pistols you have to be very very close to be accurate. For me it is too close for comfort. I was amazed that I missed a paper plate at 5 yards with my 642 38 special when I can get 3 inch groups with my 1911. So if you need to stop some one quick and they are very close to you the 38 gets my vote.
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    MY opinion only. I see no point to a .22 or .32 for self defense unless your VERY good and train a lot.
    I have trained many people in defensive shooting over the years, if your NOT going to invest the time, the larger caliber is better, IMHO.
    That's MY opinion, take it for what it's worth. As far as I'm concerned, .22 is for huntin' squirrels and such, and the .32 is SO close to a .380 acp in physical size, why bother?
    Incapacitation is the issue, and I don't believe that the .22 or .32 is all that good without precise placement.
    As a last ditch backup maybe, but not for your primary piece.
    As an aside, I had a customer shoot himself in the shoulder on the range with a .22 mag from a NAA mini-revolver, he was calm and walked out to the ambulance with no vislble ill effect. Near total penetration, chipped the collar bone too. And yes, it was an H.P. bullet. And no, he admitted he's no tough guy. No .22's for me for self defense.
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    Agreed, except that my Wife's .38 Taurus snub can put 5 shots in a 4" group at 25 feet. Could be the ammo in your case, some are finicky.
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    .22 magnum is loud, surprisingly loud. And out of a short pistol barrel, it's ballistics are about like that of a .22 LR shot from a rifle. So shot from a pistol, the .22 magnum is a loud, little bullet. You better be a very, very good marksman under pressure to be effective.

    I'd stick with the .38 Special for concealed carry if I were you.
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    I carry a 642 in the winter. But I also throw my 22 mag. NAA Pug in my jacket pocket as backup. I just purchased a Ruger SP101 in 357 mag. which will be my everyday winter carry when I find a good holster.
    I used to carry a Kel-Tec p32. One night I had a close call and found myself wishing I had a little more firepower available.
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    get a desert eagle and keep it in your drawers jk . I would go with whats most comfortable within your preferences. Any one of those calibers will work okay against a individual that is trying to harm you are trying to harm a family member or friend. I would go with the lightest but highest caliber you can get. Really I would go with the .38
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    you don't want to piss off the BG you want to eliminate the threat... out of those three it would be the .38 hands down...
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    a 38 is nice but lets look at the facts why was a 45acp made ? to stop people , what does it do ,,, it stops people , thats why the military used them for how long again ?? go 45acp u cant go wrong with it :patriotic:
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    It depends where you shoot the individual at but yes that caliber has alot of stopping power. :cool:
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    Stopping power is a feel good buzz phrase. There is no such a thing. Americans get tunnel vision sometimes. 9x19mm has been in service longer than 45 and has been used in more war by more army's than any other pistol caliber world wide. If it were a failure no one would use it. So would that mean it has more stopping power than 45ACP?
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    The OP limited us to three choices, .22mag, 32APC, and .38spcl. I voted for the .38. I like large bullets! I carry the .45ACP, or a .44spcl. But that's not what the OP was asking for. I would also like to recommend that if you do carry the smaller guns like the .38spcl, or others that have limited fire power, that you carry two of them! New York reload! Drop the empty gun, and grab the loaded one! With only 5 - 7 rounds of ammo that is not considered to be the best man stoppers, you might want a little insurance. Though I carry a large caliber weapon, I still always carry a BUG!
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