Forehand Model 1801

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  1. vivazpta

    vivazpta New Member

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    My Great Great Grandfather bought this revolver when he went out west around 1890. I don't know much of the history. My Grandmother kept the gun and finally passed it on to me. I'm very happy to get to keep a piece of family history! However, I don't know a lot about the gun.

    Its a double action top break revolver. The Caliber looks to be about .32, or possibly a short .38

    On the top of the barrel is written:

    --FOREHAND MODEL 1801--
    HOPKINS & ALLENS ARMS CO. NORWICH.CT.U.S.A


    On the side of the hand grip is F&W and on the bottom is Serial # 7419

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    Anyone know anything about these guns? I'd love to shoot it but I want to make sure i'm going to use the right kind of Ammo. I would hate for it to be one of those "Suicide Specials" and have it blow up in my face!!
  2. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    the actual markings should read "forehand model of 1901". this revolver was manufactured by hopkins & allen co. after they purchased the forehand arms co. between 1901 and 1917. 1917 is the year H&A went out of business and marlin took over the H&A factory to manufracture material for WWI.

    the 'forehand model of 1901' was offered as a 5 shot 32 S&W (small frame) or a 5 shot 38 S&W (large frame). standard barrel length for small frame is 3 inches and for the large frame 3 1/4 inches. these revolvers were manufactured for black powder cartridge pressures only and should not be fired with modern ammo. the low serial number and the F&W grips would indicate this is an early production model using left over parts actually manufactured by forehand arms co. before the H&A take over.
    bill
  3. vivazpta

    vivazpta New Member

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    Thanks! Good to know. Where could I find the correct ammo for it? The gun is still in pretty good shape, it was wrapped up in a dresser drawer for most of its life. I don't know if i'd fire it but it would be neat to have some of the ammo for display with the gun.
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    inplanotx New Member

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    Bill specifically told you that the gun is made for BLACK POWDER AMMO ONLY . Black powder loads are no longer made.

    IPT
  5. Mosin_Nagant_Fan

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    Actually, I think some company still makes BP loads for the .32 S&W Short and Long, Winchester, I beleive. I thought I saw 'em online, probably from a Midway USA ad, or something.
  6. vivazpta

    vivazpta New Member

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    Actually I believe what he said was black powder cartridge pressures only.
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  7. inplanotx

    inplanotx New Member

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    And with the rest of the sentence being....................

    "and should not be fired with modern ammo."

    Black powder has a totally different pressure curve than smokeless powder. Your body, your gun. ;):rolleyes:
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