Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Don Buckbee, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. Don Buckbee

    Don Buckbee New Member

    May 25, 2004
    Grayling, MI


    Published on on September 10, 2007.

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    There’s a new first in the 2008 presidential campaign.

    We’ve already se en the first woman candidate, Hillary Clinton and the first African American with widespread support and a serious chance at winning the presidency.

    But now there’s another groundbreaker: the first lobbyist candidate — Fred Thompson.

    Thompson was a lobbyist for 20 years before he was elected to the Senate, representing the Tennessee Savings and Loan Association, the deposed Haitian President Aristed and the National Planning & Reproductive Health Association.

    Although Fred bills himself as strongly against government interference and handouts, he also lobbied for Westinghouse in its bid for government subsidies for a nuclear power plant in Oak Ridge. After retiring from the Senate in 2002, Thompson went back to lobbying, earning $750,000 since then from Equitas, the British insurance company that wants to limit payments to the families of those who died due to asbestos exposure.

    Now Fred’s campaign is attracting other lobbyists, who are bundlers and donors to the Thompson campaign.

    Most Americans feel strongly that a presidential candidate should not accept any money from lobbyists. According to a recent Gallup Poll, 75 percent of Americans find it unacceptable for candidates to finance their campaigns with contributions from lobbyists — and 80 percent want candidates to return any contributions they do receive from lobbyists

    But Fred definitely doesn’t agree with them. His promising campaign is positively overflowing with advisers and donors who are lobbyists, former lobbyists or employees of lobbying firms. Aside from Thompson, there’s his wife, Jeri, who worked for the PR/lobbying giant Burson-Marsteller and law firm/lobbyists DLA Piper after she met Fred. Then there’s Ken Reitz, a senior campaign adviser, who works for 360Advantage — owned by two lobbying firms Burson-Marsteller and Quinn Gillespie & Associates. Reitz is the former CEO of Burson and became famous for creating the National Smokers Alliance — a faux grassroots group opposing tobacco regulation that was funded by the tobacco companies.

    Fred’s first campaign manager, Tom Collamore, was a former tobacco lobbyist. He is one of the many Thompson staffers who was shown the door after disagreeing with Mrs. Thompson. Fred’s chief counselor is Michael Toner, an adviser to Bryan Cave Strategies, which represents Shell Oil and other corporations. Then there’s Tom Daffron, COO of the Jefferson Consulting Group that lobbies on homeland security issues. Ed Gillespie, co-founder of the Quinn Gillespie & Associates lobbying firm is also a close adviser.

    Then there are the bundlers and donors. Public Citizen identified six Thompson bundlers as registered lobbyists, but the number associated with lobbyists significantly increases when the names of employees of lobbying firm, who are not necessarily registered lobbyists, are added:

    Bundler/Lobbyists (amounts collected are not available)

    • Richard F.Hohlt, a lobbyist for tobacco, nuclear energy, Chevron, and Fannie Mae
    • Rachael Jones Hensler, lobbyist for the Nickles Group
    • William Hilleary, lobbyist, Sommerstein, Nasy & Rosenthal
    • Robert L. Livingston, lobbyist, The Livingston Group
    • W. Timothy Loche, lobbyist, Smith-Free Group
    • David Lugar, lobbyist, Quinn Gillespie
    • Mach F. Mattingly, lobbyist
    • Tom Collamore
    • Michael Toner

    Registered Lobbyist Contributors:

    • Katie Huffard
    • Chris Lamond
    • Jeffrey Bloemaker
    • Patrick O’Donnell
    • William Timmons
    • William Hilleary

    Sources: Washington Magazine, Center for Responsive Politics


    • Johanna Hardy, Dir., Legislative Affairs, Rolls Royce
    • Kirk Clinkenbeard, Potomic Advocates
    • John Dowd, partner Akin, Gump which has lobbying practice
    • Sarah Newman, employee, Cassidy and Associates

    Sources: Washington Magazine, Center for Responsive Politics

    So the "Fred Thompson for President" campaign — based on his promises to shake up Washington — is being run by and paid for by corpor ate insider lobbyists.

    Do you think Fred will make any big changes if he’s elected?

    Thompson in 2008?
  2. Huck Finn

    Huck Finn Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    QUOTE "Thompson was a lobbyist for 20 years before he was elected to the Senate, representing the Tennessee Savings and Loan Association, the deposed Haitian President Aristed and the National Planning & Reproductive Health Association".

    The National Planning & Reproductive Health Association is a very Pro-Abortion group! Just thought you ought to know.

  3. Isn't Lobbyist a fancy name for Salesman?

    All the Candidates are trying to sell themselves.
  4. berto64

    berto64 Active Member

    And wasn't all this years ago? Boy them liberals dig deep for dirt don't they?

    I don't believe any of us are the same person today that we were 20 years ago. As we mature we tend to become wiser. At least I did, but I don't know about them democrats.
  5. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    Here at TFF
    While Fred is the best the Republicans have running at the moment, keep in mind that he is an actor. He gets paid to pretend he is someone he is not.

    I'm not bashing Fred but keep a close eye on him and all other politicians.

    I listened to an interview with him this past week and agree with almost everything he said. He will most likely get my vote but I'll still keep a close eye on him.

    I'm voting against everyone in office this election as I'm tired of liars and crooks. It may be harder to learn the fine art of lying and stealing when they only serve one term. :D
  6. Huck Finn

    Huck Finn Member

    Aug 17, 2004

    Yer right! Not like them swift boat vets are we? I guess it doesn't bother you that a guy will lobby for a pro abortion group (if the price is right) even ithough he claims to be anti-abortion. I wonder how much it would cost the "Brady Bunch" to get him to change his opinion on the RKBA?
  7. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Being a lobbiest is not an evil thing. WE have our lobbiests in washington tyring to fight for our gun rights....remember that!!!!

  8. ramblinrose56

    ramblinrose56 New Member

    Aug 26, 2007
  9. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    The republicans verson of paul tsongas.... NO THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. ramblinrose56

    ramblinrose56 New Member

    Aug 26, 2007
    How can you vote against anyone that promises to get rid of the IRS and Federal Reserve??? :) Who doesn't want a bigger paycheck? Actually, Ron Paul doesn't. He's never voted to raise his pay. Glock, you didn't even have time to watch the video.
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2007
  11. I don't know much abour Ron Paul, but the video is damning against Bush & the Iraqi War. :(
  12. ramblinrose56

    ramblinrose56 New Member

    Aug 26, 2007
    Please look him up. From his website:

    Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

    He has never voted to raise taxes.
    He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

    He voted against the Patriot Act.
    He voted against regulating the Internet.
    He voted against the Iraq war.

    He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

    Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
  13. rosierita

    rosierita Active Member

    Mar 13, 2004
    South Carolina
    so far, i plan on voting for fred too.
  14. tgman227

    tgman227 New Member

    Sep 13, 2007
    I agree, right now my vote go's to Fred
  15. White Hawk

    White Hawk New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    ...and the CIA, and the FBI, and the NSA, and the Secret Service (well, except maybe for his security detail)...

    Worse. He's the republican's Dennis Kucinich.
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