FRONT GRIP ON PISTOLS LEGAL NOW or NOT

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  1. InfiniteArms

    InfiniteArms New Member

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    SBR and AOW are regulated by the NFA of 1934 which is still in effect. Regardless of what wording was in the AWB it expiring did not change anything.

    Pistol + Stock = SBR
    Pistol + Forward grip = AOW

    A receiver does NOT need to be "marked" pistol. Any receiver that has not had a barrel installed is not yet a rifle or pistol and can be built into either. Once a barrel is installed it is the a rifle or pistol forever.

    Correct. Read this ruling letter from ATF.
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  3. tymbrewolf

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    Has anyone ever mounted a forend strap to a hunting pistol with a forend. I am thinking of something similar to a a mossberg tactical forend strap or even small single point sling to wrap around my wrist attached only to the forend. I picked up a kid's notebook today with a small 6" loop on a quick buckle and thought this would really improve my grip on a hunting hand gun... It shouldn't be a vertical grip as it is not a solid vertically attached appendage is my thinking. Thanks
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    Heck, folks usually just use one leg of the bipod to hold onto them ;)
  6. Big Shrek

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    Probably grandfathered in...it is a Curio & Relic, so may fit under an FFL03...
    best to check with your local BATF office...in a roundabout way ;)
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    That gun is currently manufactured, not C&R. The reason it is not classified as an AOW was explained correctly, in green, in the post you quoted.

    Otherwise, a pistol with a vertical forward grip is an NFA firearm.
  8. deadin

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    Just because a gun is a C&R doesn't change its NFA status. They still need all of the paperwork and tax stamps. They just can be transfered between FFL03s.
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    Well good for know. Will be grandfathered, but once AWB passes, Hope not but some thing will change for sure. what can't tell U least some will go through all Firearms industry will take a dive.
  10. FMJ23

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    ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are “making” a firearm requiring registration with ATF’s NFA Branch. Making an unregistered “AOW” is punishable by a fine and 10 years’ imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered “AOW” is also punishable by fine and 10 years’ imprisonment.

    To lawfully add a vertical fore grip to a handgun, a person must make an appropriate application on ATF Form 1, “Application to Make and Register a Firearm.” The applicant must submit the completed form, along with a fingerprint card bearing the applicant’s fingerprints; a photograph; and $200.00. The application will be reviewed by the NFA Branch. If the applicant is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under Federal, State, or local law, and possession of an “AOW” is not prohibited in the applicant’s State of residence, the form will be approved. Only then may the person add a vertical fore grip to the designated handgun.
  11. nmckenzie

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    Always wondered about ATF's ruling on this. What's the big deal if someone wants to install a foregrip on something like an AR or AK pistol, or even a 1911 for that matter? Thought about it for a bit, then remembered the bump fire goofiness that was making the rounds a while back. Perhaps that had something to do with it.
  12. NPGunsmith

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    NOT...
    "ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are “making” a firearm requiring registration with ATF’s NFA Branch. Making an unregistered “AOW” is punishable by a fine and 10 years’ imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered “AOW” is also punishable by fine and 10 years’ imprisonment."
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    I'm sure glad about that! If all the gangsters were allowed to equip their pistols with a fore grip, well...... we'd be in some big trouble! Thank God for these intelligent useful laws!
  14. NPGunsmith

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    That just makes me wonder if the same applies to adding the Magpul "Angled" fore grip since it is not technically "Vertical"... They seem to play on technicalities if you read some of the other nonsense they write.
    http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf
    Page 2, 1st paragraph shows an actual BATFE agent explanation on what is and isn't "Handgun, Pistol, AOW" Kind of funny when you read it :)
  15. Grizz

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    The magpul angled fore grip is allowed on pistols, it is not considered a vertical grip according to the ATF.
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