G-I-V-E Act

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by 22WRF, Mar 17, 2009.

  1. 22WRF

    22WRF Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2004
    If the Obama’s have their way, and H.R.1388 is passed, Adolph has risen from the dead, and we can all bend over, and kiss our backsides goodbye. This really is frightening; it started pretty much like this in Germany, and has been repeated in many countries throughout the world in our lifetime. It now appears that we are being forced down the same path of horrors. What are we allowing to happen, why are we allowing ourselves to be lead like lambs, what happened to our ability to determine right from wrong, will we wake up in time, or is it already to late? The madness must be stopped, our Republic must be restored, and H.R.1388 must not be accepted, or allowed to pass. If you do not agree after reading the following, it is already to late, and shame on us. This is what are Canadian Neighbors think about what’s happening in the U.S.A…

    George W. (gfwjr)

    Canada Free Press
    By Judi McLeod - Monday, March 16, 2009

    The biting winds of change are blowing through ObamaNation. It becomes forced labor and like the practice of another era, presses American citizens of all ages and creeds, unknowingly into military service. On paper, H.R. 1388 is the “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act”; the more innocuous sounding “The Give Act”, for short. But “The Give Act” is not part of Obama’s distant future for unsuspecting American citizens, because it hits the House floor tomorrow. {March 18, 2009]

    On paper, H.R. 1388 is the “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act”; the more innocuous sounding “The Give Act”, for short. But “The Give Act” is not part of Obama’s distant future for unsuspecting American citizens, because it hits the House floor tomorrow.

    Democrat Rep. Carolyn McCarthy is sponsoring the bill with 25 co-sponsors, Democrats down to the last one. 34 Yeas [YES] and 3 Nays [NO], 34-3.

    The Give Act puts the finishing touches to Public Allies New Leadership for New Times, modeled after Saul Alinsky’s “Peoples Organizations” and operating under Michelle Obama with an alleged operating budget of more than $75-million a year. According to a Fact Sheet About Public Allies, “President Obama was a member of the founding advisory board of the non-profit organization. Michelle Obama was the founding Executive Director of Public Allies Chicago from Spring, 1993 until Fall 1996 (italics CFP’s). She served on Public Allies national board of directors from 1997 until 2002. Obama was no longer on the board when Michelle was hired.

    Michelle was also a pioneer in the social entrepreneur movement--leaders who create new approaches and organize to provide new solutions to social problems.

    Like most things Saul Alinsky, H.R. 1388 sounds noble in stating why wide-sweeping change is necessary. “The Give Act” aims to “leverage investments to increase State, local, business and philanthropic resources to address national and local challenges.”

    Comprehensive in its power, H.R. 1388 goes straight to the heart of volunteerism in America, impacting everything from the lemonade stands of neighbourhood children, to the residents of senior citizens homes.

    “The Give Act” puts tow-headed school children and silver-haired seniors in the official uniform of the new State, and encompasses every walk of life in main-street America.

    It could be argued that ladies as sweet as their 4-H cherry pies or school children fed the pablum of being global citizens in American public schools are hardly in a position to know they will be part of Obama’s dream for a radically changed America. But no longer are the vanguards in place to teach them the difference.

    The Act in entrenching will leave no student, or senior behind and no one in between.

    American ‘volunteers’ from across the spectrum, once pressed into service of the Civilian Community Corps, in the fullness of time, shall be called the “National Civilian Community Corps.”

    With students and seniors corralled into the same pasture, there will be no detractors left to call then “Obamabots”.

    You might want to run, but you can’t hide from H.R. 1388.

    Whether you are young or old, or firmly believe that volunteering means you are offering your time to the good of community work, you will be pressed into Obama’s National Civilian Community Corps.

    Just in case you don’t want to wear the uniform and think the Corps means everybody but you, these are the citizen group H.R. 1388 proposes to cover:

    “Increasing service opportunities for our Nation’s retiring professionals.
    “Encourage members of the Baby Boom generation to partake in service opportunities.”

    The National Civilian Community Corps is year-round and will impose itself on children away at summer camp. Even private schools will not be immune from its membership.

    Down through the generations, wearing a uniform has always appealed to the sincere at heart.

    According to H.R. 1388, “the Director determines appropriate “Uniforms”.

    Membership is mandatory!

    While you were busy worrying about coming up with the rent or mortgage money and the safety of your job, on March 9, committees knowing full well the chill that comes with the word “camp” changed all of their documents to read “campus”.

    From Library of Congress
    (d) [Struck out->][ Camps ][<-Struck out] CAMPUSES-
    [Struck out->][ (1) UNITS TO BE ASSIGNED TO CAMPS- ][<-Struck out]
    (1) UNITS TO BE ASSIGNED TO CAMPUSES- The units of the Corps shall be grouped together as appropriate [Struck out->][ in camps ][<-Struck out] in campuses for operational, support, and boarding purposes. The Corps [Struck out->][ camp ][<-Struck out] campus for a unit shall be in a facility or central location established as the operational headquarters and boarding place for the unit. Corps members may be housed [Struck out->][ in the camps ][<-Struck out] in the campuses.
    [Struck out->][ (2) CAMP SUPERINTENDENT- There shall be a superintendent for each camp. The superintendent is the head of the camp. ][<-Struck out]
    (2) CAMPUS DIRECTOR- There shall be a campus director for each campus. The campus director is the head of the campus.
    [Struck out->][ (3) ELIGIBLE SITE FOR CAMP- A camp may be located ][<-Struck out]
    (3) ELIGIBLE SITE FOR CAMPUS- A campus must be cost-effective and may, upon the completion of a feasibility study, be located in a facility referred to in section 162(a)(3).
    [Struck out->][ (e) Distribution of Units and Camps ][<-Struck out]
    (e) DISTRIBUTION OF UNITS AND CAMPUSES- The Director shall ensure that the Corps units and [Struck out->][ camps are distributed ][<-Struck out] campuses are cost-effective and are distributed in urban areas and [Struck out->][ rural areas in various regions throughout the United States. ][<-Struck out] rural areas such that each Corps unit in a region can be easily deployed for disaster and emergency response to such region.

    “This is the equivalent of brown shirts and the “Arbeit macht frei”,” writes www.resistnet.com. “The Government has the right to require individuals to give 3 years under the guise of “volunteer” service.”
    Above the gates of Auschiwitz were the words: “Arbeit Macht Frei”, (“work will set you free”).

    “Man is capable of such wrong doing in the name of a cause, again and again throughout history, a charismatic man promises Utopia at the cost of abhorrent acts as a means to it.”

    In Obama’s bold new America, a reversal of the innocence of good works in volunteerism is the first radical change of tomorrow.
  2. How is it volunteering if you're forced to do it?! The Nazis did something similar with their work groups. On the surface, they helped cancel unemployment and gave people jobs to do building roads, repairing bridges, etc. Good stuff, right? Well, there was also lots and lots of political brainwashing and even paramilitary training that prepared the young men for military service, mostly in the Heer. Many of the more "politcally pure" recruits went into the SS or SD (Gestapo).

    This is most likely to be the beginnings of Barry's national security force. Getting all these young children to do service projects is good on the surface, but you know that they'll get a major dose of liberal brainwashing and more Barry kool-aid out of this. Obama Youth, maybe? It's like Hitler said in a speech, even if you disagree with the regime, once they have your children brainwashed, they've won.

    And if this is so good for American, then why isn't the press harping about it? For an adminstration that's supposed to usher in a new era of transparancy and openess in government, Barry sure does a lot of things behind closed doors and in the dark.

  3. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
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  4. Haligan

    Haligan Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2008
    FEMA Region II
    Very troubling indeed.
  5. SaddleSarge

    SaddleSarge New Member

    Aug 24, 2008
    Sounds quite similar to his buddy, William Ayers, with these excerpts from the "Prairie Fire Manifesto":




    (Complete Link: Prairie Fire Manifesto)
  6. SaddleSarge

    SaddleSarge New Member

    Aug 24, 2008
    If anyone would like to view the complete bill, here it is:

    It's huge, it's most assuredly socialism/communism, and I've just started to peruse it... and it's scarey stuff folks:
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  7. 4EvrLearning

    4EvrLearning New Member

    Feb 27, 2009
    Left Coast
    I am stunned and physically ill. This happens in OTHER countries, not ours! May God have mercy...

    Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention, 22WRF and Sarge, and for the various links. This JUST CAN'T HAPPEN!!!
  8. 4EvrLearning

    4EvrLearning New Member

    Feb 27, 2009
    Left Coast
    From the "govtrack" site, I found that there are 3 other active bills that are related to HR1388.

    As the site explains, "See the Related Legislation page for other bills related to this one and a list of subject terms that have been applied to this bill. Sometimes the text of one bill or resolution is incorporated into another, and in those cases the original bill or resolution, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned."

    When I clicked on the "related legislation" link, these are the ones that came up as introduced/pending.

    H.R. 1444: Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act

    To establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.

    H.R. 524: GIVE Act of 2009

    S 243: GIVE Act of 2009
  9. Well if this is going to be a "mandatory" bill for all americans.....I wonder if those inhabitents of the Jihad trainging camps will be forced to serve too?
  10. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    Forced servitude, with total indoctrination.

    If THIS doesn't wake people up, and make them RISE up, I don't know what will. :mad:
  11. obxned

    obxned Active Member

    Mar 4, 2007
    On the bright side, at least I will get to meet all the members of this forum in person. Sadly, it will be at the 're-education' camp.
  12. kingnothingugm

    kingnothingugm Member

    Feb 7, 2009
    Do you think, once the SHTF, that the people "on campus" will be forced to dig graves for the people defending the Constitution?
  13. GMFWoodchuck

    GMFWoodchuck New Member

    Oct 9, 2008
    Binghamton, NY
    Good luck at making me work for free....
  14. GMFWoodchuck

    GMFWoodchuck New Member

    Oct 9, 2008
    Binghamton, NY
    Well, I wrote to my rep and asked for a reply....We'll see....
  15. 22WRF

    22WRF Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2004
    Sorry I won't be able to meet any of you in camp. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

    However the relatives of those attempting to send me camp (campus) will be be busy attending funerals