GCN: Gun Control Now

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by MrsTeresa, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. Juker

    Juker New Member

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    I just spent a while reading this entire thread, and even though Mrs. T has been banned, I'd like to add more food for thought.

    1) I spent two years serving in the Berlin Brigade before the Wall came down. I made several trips into East Berlin, and saw many times firsthand what a society looks like when freedoms are abolished, and the populace is disarmed. During my time in Berlin, 17 unarmed people were shot to death by East German guards while trying to escape into the West. Their crime: They no longer desired to be in East Berlin.

    2) I believe the reason for crime rates in America is simple - the judicial and prison systems are a joke. Criminals have little to fear by being apprehended. If we were an eye-for-an-eye society, we would see a dramatic decrease in crime.

    3) Until we are an eye-for-an-eye society, I have every intention of protecting me and mine with extreme prejudice, lethal force, and finality. No criminal who harms my family will be a burden to taxpayers.

    4) In 1983 one of my sisters was attacked and raped. She is 5'2" tall and 110 pounds. She was jogging at the time. The rapist was bigger, stronger, and faster - so outrunning does not work. She now has a concealed carry permit thanks to the great state of Texas, and I absolutely pity the next person who tries to lay a hand on her.

    5) I live in the Land of Lincoln, one of the two remaining states with no provision for concealed carry. I'm a "downstater", meaning pretty much everybody south of Chicago. Illinois is the fifth most populous state, but to most Illinoisans, Chicago is Mars. We are not part of the corrupt politics and scandals that continually defame this once great and now bankrupt state. Illinois is 99% farmland and good people. We are the only state with the FOID (Firearm Owners Identification) card, and there are, I believe, some 2,0000,000 legal FOID card holders in Illinois. As you know, Chicago has extra gun control laws requiring permits and registration. There were only 435 murders in Chicago last year. As far as I know, not a single one of them was committed by a FOID card holder. Gun control does not work on criminals - it only affects the law-abiding, taxpaying citizen.
  2. polamalu43

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    Responding to the utterly oversimplistic arguments of MrsTeresa, I might ask the good lady to look at the example provided by our friends across the Atlantic in Great Britain. They have outlawed the possession of handguns by the people. What has resulted? An explosion of crimes of violence by criminals who no longer need worry about resistance. I am also somewhat taken aback by the notion that I, as a typical gun owner and enthusiast, am on a power trip that can only be satisfied by a gun. My reasons for owning firearms are many. Safety in a dangerous world for my family is foremost. That said, I also immensely enjoy the camraderie of my friends of like mind. I am a responsible gun owner. Because you, good madam, wish to be a sheep, does not mean I must be also. There are many predators and bad people in the world. Why in the world do you vent your wrath on what I have found to be really nice people who have a passion for firearms? And, I might add, people who would likely defend you from harm if that situation ever arose. I sincerely hope you are never in a position where you or someone you love are confronted by a predator. I think your limited powers of persuasion would not serve you well. Your utterly incredible claims of a 50% reduction in violent crime by a banning of guns is a total flight of fantasy. Look at the facts. In those states that have allowed their law-abiding citizens the right to carry a concealed weapon, crime rates have gone down, and not by a small amount. But, I suspect, looking at facts and evidence is not why you are here. My suggestion would be for you to do a little honest research about the correlation between violent crime and gun ownership by law-abiding citizens. Your ideas are somewhat amusing, but considering the fact they are shared by others in positions of power equally uneducated about gun ownership, they are potentially dangerous to society. The really civilized people are the ones you find in forums like this.
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    Dang Juker, welcome aboard man. :)

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  4. Juker

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    Thank you, brother. I lurked around a few other forums before deciding to hang my helmet here. I don't FaceSpace, MyBook, or Twizzler, and as this is the only forum I've joined, I'll do what I can to be an upstanding member of TFF.
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    You're that obama chick,right?
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