GCN: Gun Control Now

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by MrsTeresa, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. MrsTeresa

    MrsTeresa Former Guest

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    5
    You're telling me that you would honestly shoot someone stealing your car? And then go to jail for manslaughter.. what you all are failing to understand is that you have the wrong approach. The man attacks you physically? Run. Claim he's faster? It's your own fault for not being in shape enough to outrun him. He pulls a gun? Sure, then you could do the same... but oh, wait.. that wouldn't happen with more gun control laws would it? Regardless, why even risk it rising to such a level, take guns out of the picture completely. The government has the power to do as it wishes. If guns were to be banned, they would take care of them. Remove them from civilian circulation and I guarantee the crime would be reduced by AT THE LEAST, 50%
  2. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    again....
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011
  3. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    Um... Run? So they can shoot you in the back. Even if they don't are you going to run when they come for your house, your children? To rape YOU! I'm sorry but I'm not going to let my family be in danger because I'm too much of a coward to protect my family and my livelihood.

    I'm sorry i'm too busy being a physicist deriving the laws of the universe and studying quantum mechanics so we can build a better society to go on a two hour run every morning.

    What makes you think he's going to stop at stealing a car, he might stop at that, but he might also graduate to armed robbery, he might also panic and kill someone. God forbid he's a gang member and shoots first before politely asking for your car keys.


    no, mam I assure you crime would rise at least 100% or more, Maria salvaturcha for one would have field day slaughtering the innocent cowering in their beds. But wait, there's enough black market guns to make sure every MS member has a fully auto AK-47 so it wouldn't just be with swords and kives but with fully auto weapons. Talk about becoming sheep before the slaughter.

    NO, it has the power to do what it's people want, go read the social contract.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011
  4. Awtoman

    Awtoman Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    488
    Location:
    Middle Tennessee
    MrsTeresa, a suggestion if I may. If you come here with good intentions, such as having your questions answered about a controversial subject that is of concern to you, and you do it in a way that is polite and respectful, you will be treated politely and respectfully, and hopefully get some of the answers you seek. We may or may not agree in the end, but you will get an honest, fair discussion if that is what your looking for.

    If you wish to demean the members of this forum, through your choice of words, insinuation, and tone, again you probably will get what you are asking for. If somebody came to your house, and talked to you as you have done with some, not all, of your statements, you would not take too kindly to it I suspect.
    Would you like to try starting off on the other foot?

    Tom
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011
  5. ckelley

    ckelley Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    77
    Location:
    North Dakota
    Take a look at drugs. Heroin, cocaine, meth are all banned by the government. Nobody in this country uses these drugs, because that would be illegal! This is not the case. People that use these drugs even though they are illegal. Because these people are criminals! Just because something is illegal or banned does not mean that people that shouldn't have them cannot get them.
  6. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    I think this needs to be put up on websites everywhere.

    Mrs. Theresa I would like to ask one question. Why do you care at all whether law abiding citizens own guns at all?

    oh and this is why we need firearms, so that it's the criminals that have something to fear not law abiding citizens.


    Edit: hey guys found this stright from the lips of the Gun Control Network (GCN):
    I'm gunna let you guys have fun picking that apart.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011
  7. pickenup

    pickenup Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2002
    Messages:
    6,858
    Location:
    Colorado Rocky Mountains
    You are not real good with facts, are you?

    It is FACT that the more strict the firearm laws are in a city, the MORE violent crime there is. When a state passes a concealed carry law, EVERY TIME the violent crime rate goes DOWN. Criminals are afraid of law abiding citizens with guns, who can fight back.

    More GUNS = LESS CRIME!!!
    FBI statistics prove it.

    But then, you do not care about the REAL facts.
    I won't waste any more time with you.
  8. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    it's not just here in the states either, it's a general trend worldwide that the more guns the less crime(talking not just about laws but in % of the number of people who ACTUALLY carry) . Granted you can't get rid of ALL crime, but the ones that do still choose to commit violent acts usually get what they deserve. as far as I'm concerned if you get shot in commission of a violent crime, the victim should have the right to put another four in your head so you don't come back to victimize anyone else. Just becuase a violent ciminal misses, and doens't end up commiting murder doesn't mean he wasn't trying to. You don't get a free trip in my book just because you missed and got lucky.
  9. Rooster Cogburn

    Rooster Cogburn New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    109
    Location:
    North Carolina
  10. springerbuster

    springerbuster New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    160
    Location:
    Southwest Washington
    It's a proven fact that cities/states with more gun control laws enforced have lower crime

    Like New York, LA, Chicago? Take the time to check the facts and stop putting your foot in your mouth. I am done wasting my time on you.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2011
  11. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    You know another thing? in states where people actually carry, guess what happens to criminals?

    THEY GET SHOT, usually before they can commit another crime. Thereby reducing the crime rate.
  12. Haligan

    Haligan Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,928
    Location:
    FEMA Region II
    Wow, alittle media spin, mixed with a pep rally(memorial service), and a national speech, and we are all coming together to work out our differences. It's beautiful. (wipe tear)

    I just feel like, like, like.........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ
  13. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    Scary part is it's the GCN that got guns banned in england, and now they're coming for americans. though in retrospect it seems obvious that the country that opressed a dozen or so colonies would be the first to outright ban guns.
  14. Cavik

    Cavik New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    12
    Gun control laws don't matter to criminals; if someone who's willing to break the law wants a gun, they're going to get a gun. Most of the gun control laws that are being put in place seem to be just making it more and more difficult for law abiding citizens to defend themselves. Tell me, how does that make you safe?
  15. OcelotZ3

    OcelotZ3 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    73
    MrsTeresa should back up her "it's a proven fact" statements with citations/references, otherwise she stop making such broad statements without real information to back them up.

    At one time I didn't know the "facts" (but had some preconceived notions) and did my own research, looked at FBI statistics, etc. and found out the truth. I suggest she does the same before looking like a fool...
  16. gendoikari87

    gendoikari87 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    361
    Yeah but anti-gun nuts like teresa here believe that self defense that results in a criminals death should be prosecuted as a homicide. They want you to have to run from your house when faced with a threat, presumably so they can take you stuff and enslave you.

    take a gander at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX8mp6rkf_Q&feature=related

    I ask you Mrs. Teresa, would you be willing to put this sign in your yard? If not then pipe down on the anti-gun talk.
  17. zkovach

    zkovach Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,011
    Location:
    Michigan
    Actually you couldnt be more wrong! please look at the paper i wrote on gun control laws in the forum and read actual facts..Not what the so called media tells you. More gun control laws and restrictions cause more crime. As to your giving "men" false power.... girls shoot guns to... please leave your sexist remarks for another forum.
  18. zkovach

    zkovach Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,011
    Location:
    Michigan
    Again you couldnt be more wrong. Guns are everywhere. When they banned them in britain crime rose 50% because only criminals had them and still could aquire them from the black market. This leaves inncoent civilians unable to defend themselves and their family. All it does is empower criminals because they know the law abiding victims are unarmed.

    On a second note I still dont get this point of view. Its your right NOT to be armed. It is my right to be armed. I have no problem with you never owning a gun. But why do you try to steal the rights from others away? I dont get that in America today.
  19. rentalguy1

    rentalguy1 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    884
    Location:
    The mountains of NE TN.
    A "troll" is someone who joins a forum for the sole purpose of starting trouble. This is obiously your tactic.


    WOW! You don't really believe that, do you? You need to do some reading. I normally don't respond to a troll, but this is just a blatant lie!

    I don't care about a "modern" (re:progressive) society. I care about the American society. You know, the one "Of the people, by the people and for the people." We were founded on certain ideas, folkways and morays. May God have mercy on those who try to discard these ideas, because I will not.

    I could care less about the rest of the world. I only care about the USA, and the protection of my family, my home, my community, and my country. Yes, guns were designed to kill. And they do give corrupted men false power, but that is offset when the uncorrupted men retain that same power.


    Remember fellas, when it comes to morons and trolls, we have them surrounded. They don't control us, we control them.
  20. rentalguy1

    rentalguy1 Former Guest

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    884
    Location:
    The mountains of NE TN.
    They were not the first. The first was Nazi Germany under Hitler. I think we all know how that went...
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum Conneticut gun control law Jan 31, 2014
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum Sen. Joe Manchin says passing gun control reform will only get more difficult next ye Dec 22, 2013
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum HARVARD STUDY: NO CORRELATION BETWEEN GUN CONTROL AND LESS VIOLENT CRIME Aug 29, 2013
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum Gabby Giffords group goes after senators who voted against gun control measures Apr 25, 2013
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum Constitutional Lawyer tears apart new gun control. Apr 10, 2013