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German derringer

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by swingnsling, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. swingnsling

    swingnsling New Member

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    Looking for any info on this old gun. Is a 380 cal. 5 shot. Has the markings triangle with lem on left side of case and crown with R and star P on right side. Cylinder is marked with crown and egg with elg inside and a star P plus has numbers 23. Any information would be really appreciated thanks in advance.

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  2. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

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    It's Belgian not German: The "crown and egg with elg inside" on cylinder is the post-1892 Liege, Belgium proof mark. There were a multitude of similar small revolvers with folding triggers made, and a scan of the online auctions will give you an idea of value.
  3. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

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    Those guns were made by the ton and are the equivalent of our low cost revolvers of the c. 1900 period. They generally bring $75 or so as curios, but if the engraving is nice (the pictures are so bad I can't tell what it is like), and the gun is functional and in good shape otherwise, the value could go to $200 or so.

    Similar guns shown in the 1911 Adolf Frank (Germany) catalog sold for 10-18 marks, or about $2.50-$4.50 at the time. (Unengraved ones went for 5 to 6 marks, and a Colt Model 1878 was 118 marks or $29.50.)

    I wonder if the gun could be the British .320, a common caliber in those guns, rather than .38 or 9mm caliber, which would be unusual.

    Jim
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